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  • #91
    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Oh, like those like me with eptopic pregnancies? Yeah, we’re not fans
    Thank you.

    I really don’t like abortion debates between two males because of reasons like you said. A male’s comprehension and perspective of pregnancy is abstract at best, and dangerous at worst.
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    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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    • #92
      Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

      Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
      And my point is that they should know that that's only part of it. What they should be thinking is "Hey, if a kid happens, I'm ready, but she may not want to continue the pregnancy, and that will[U] ultimately be her choice to make, and that could suck for me, so..."
      I don't disagree, with the underlined. But the male is not 100% to blame, the woman still has to consent. She also knows the risks. To be clear, I'm talking about the majority of consensual sex, that results in a non-complicated pregnancy. Deutsche brought up a valid exception, and then you have non-consensual sex, obviously.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
        I don't disagree, with the underlined. But the male is not 100% to blame, the woman still has to consent. She also knows the risks. To be clear, I'm talking about the majority of consensual sex, that results in a non-complicated pregnancy. Deutsche brought up a valid exception, and then you have non-consensual sex, obviously.
        Yes, women should know the risks too. But again, my point is that one of those risks is NOT that she'll be obligated to continue a pregnancy against her will if her partner wants to have a baby. Just nope, sorry, not how it works.

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        • #94
          Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

          Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
          Yes, women should know the risks too. But again, my point is that one of those risks is NOT that she'll be obligated to continue a pregnancy against her will if her partner wants to have a baby. Just nope, sorry, not how it works.
          Ok, there is a disconnect here, I think. My opinion is that the woman should at least hear and consider the man's input about the child. Who knows? She might be afraid he's gonna ditch her, or just send her checks and not actually care for the child (valid concerns). If that's not the case, the man's input could become valid, and a new life is created. You know?
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          • #95
            Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

            Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
            Thank you.

            I really don’t like abortion debates between two males because of reasons like you said. A male’s comprehension and perspective of pregnancy is abstract at best, and dangerous at worst.
            I’m going to be honest, I’ve hated comments like these and not just on abortion. Shutting women out of the conversation is wrong, but just because we’re men doesn’t mean we can’t have an understanding about pregnancies and what they entail.

            It’s the equivalent of saying “you can’t have an opinion on contact to the head penalties because you’ve never played hockey.”
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            • #96
              Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              I’m going to be honest, I’ve hated comments like these and not just on abortion. Shutting women out of the conversation is wrong, but just because we’re men doesn’t mean we can’t have an understanding about pregnancies and what they entail.

              It’s the equivalent of saying “you can’t have an opinion on contact to the head penalties because you’ve never played hockey.”
              .
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              • #97
                Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                Ok, there is a disconnect here, I think. My opinion is that the woman should at least hear and consider the man's input about the child. Who knows? She might be afraid he's gonna ditch her, or just send her checks and not actually care for the child (valid concerns). If that's not the case, the man's input could become valid, and a new life is created. You know?
                Yeah, I have no disagreement with any of that.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                  Thank you.

                  I really don’t like abortion debates between two males because of reasons like you said. A male’s comprehension and perspective of pregnancy is abstract at best, and dangerous at worst.
                  Yet here we go, see above replies

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                  • #99
                    Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                    Yet here we go, see above replies
                    If the mother is willing, I'd choose a mother's health over an unborn child any day of the week. I am thinking there are some mothers out there that would sacrifice themselves for the child. I'm not one to judge on that. That is her wish? That is what would be done.
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                    • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      I’m going to be honest, I’ve hated comments like these and not just on abortion. Shutting women out of the conversation is wrong, but just because we’re men doesn’t mean we can’t have an understanding about pregnancies and what they entail.

                      It’s the equivalent of saying “you can’t have an opinion on contact to the head penalties because you’ve never played hockey.”
                      I never said men should be shut out of the debate, I said I don’t like abortion debates that only involve males.

                      Look, you may not like it but males will never have an actual understanding of pregnancy and all that it entails. And I say this as a husband and father who was there every step of his wife’s pregnancy. I’ve got a pretty good picture of what pregnancy entails, but to even begin to try to understand the physical, biological, mental details of pregnancy? Yeah I’ve got no clue, and neither will any male ever. And to try to debate something that you only have a, at best, 10% understanding of is f-ing stupid. Any abortion debate has to have female participation, on both sides frankly, or it’s ignorant and does absolutely nothing.
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                      Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                      But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                      Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                      Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                      • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        I’m going to be honest, I’ve hated comments like these and not just on abortion. Shutting women out of the conversation is wrong, but just because we’re men doesn’t mean we can’t have an understanding about pregnancies and what they entail.

                        It’s the equivalent of saying “you can’t have an opinion on contact to the head penalties because you’ve never played hockey.”
                        We're not talking about opinions, we are talking about power.

                        You never have to worry about the male perspective not being given a fair hearing, on anything, just like whites and straights and above all the rich. All the "neutral" world is is an incessant echoing of those groups' perspectives.

                        What I am taking about is removing men from having any power over what women do with a pregnancy. That is a vestige of the in loco parentis sexism of protecting the Madonna / correcting the whore that has infected Western thought for the 1600 years since Augustine tried to work out his mommy issues, and has now happily been discarded by everyone except sociopaths in the Middle East and saps in the American South, or vice versa.

                        Men are in the game on parenting. By definition, an abortion isn't about parenting. An abortion is about a woman's body. On that topic you and I have literally not a single meaningful word to say.
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                        • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          By definition, an abortion isn't about parenting. An abortion is about a woman's body. On that topic you and I have literally not a single meaningful word to say.
                          And that’s where you’re just flat out wrong.

                          Sometimes when the baby is clearly going to struggle to survive, the parents have a decision to make about whether they terminate or or. That’s about parenting. It’s also sometimes a co-equal decision. But the woman could unilaterally decide one way or the other. That’s her right.

                          The rest of your post is just rabble. Of course it always comes down to what the woman wants. It’s her decision. Always. But saying men shouldn’t have a say on policy is just silly. And it’s still no different from saying a person who hasn’t played hockey doesn’t get to sit on the rules committee. That’s just dumb.
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                          • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                            I suggest reading this twitter feed posted by a Mormon woman.

                            https://***********/designmom/status...725184?lang=en


                            Here's the highlights.






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                            • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              And that’s where you’re just flat out wrong.

                              Sometimes when the baby is clearly going to struggle to survive, the parents have a decision to make about whether they terminate or or. That’s about parenting. It’s also sometimes a co-equal decision. But the woman could unilaterally decide one way or the other. That’s her right.

                              The rest of your post is just rabble. Of course it always comes down to what the woman wants. It’s her decision. Always. But saying men shouldn’t have a say on policy is just silly. And it’s still no different from saying a person who hasn’t played hockey doesn’t get to sit on the rules committee. That’s just dumb.
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                              • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                                Mormon woman's information is not entirely correct. There are two types of mucus in the cervix, and they exist at different times in the cycle. One acts as a sort of plug - nothing in or out by natural means. The other forms as the woman approaches her ovulation date, and forms a sort of honeycomb-like design. It will hold the sperm in place, protecting the sperm, until ovulation. And, according to an OBGYN with whom I've spoken, women can even get pregnant during their menstruation.
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