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  • #76
    Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
    Wow. Wow. Maybe mom should stop spreading her legs for any guy out there, and maybe only choose a guy who's gonna take responsibility and stick around. Goes both ways.
    And there it is, folks. A baby is divine punishment for sex. Conservative "morality" in one sentence.
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    • #77
      Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      And there it is, folks. A baby is divine punishment for sex. Conservative "morality" in one sentence.
      It takes two to tango, when it's all consensual. Dad should have some say, if he's a real man and takes responsibility for his part in it. The final decision still is with the woman, mind you, but what if dad wants to raise that child, wants to have that child as part of his family?

      To simply cast off the dad is silly, in those cases, IMO.
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      • #78
        Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

        Dad gets no say. He doesn't have to carry the little parasite to term for 9 months, and all the risks that go along with that.

        But so much of this discussion would be made moot if we outlawed abstinence-only sex ed, and made real sex-ed mandatory for all school curricula.

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        • #79
          Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
          Dad gets no say. He doesn't have to carry the little parasite to term for 9 months, and all the risks that go along with that.

          But so much of this discussion would be made moot if we outlawed abstinence-only sex ed, and made real sex-ed mandatory for all school curricula.
          We keep hearing "we want the fathers involved!" and then when they WANT to be involved, the mom says "nevermind, the point is moot." That is frustrating to me. This is obviously anecdotal, but had a friend who had a LTR with a woman, both were college age at the time, there was an oops pregnancy, dad wanted the child, mom didn't. Dad was ready to step up and take care of the child in any capacity, not just send a check. Mom said nope, off to the clinic. Dad was heartbroken, and ended up breaking up with her. He couldn't handle that decision.

          They could've cared for the child financially, emotionally, etc. The woman just simply didn't want the kid.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            Dad gets no say. He doesn't have to carry the little parasite to term for 9 months, and all the risks that go along with that.

            But so much of this discussion would be made moot if we outlawed abstinence-only sex ed, and made real sex-ed mandatory for all school curricula.
            Oh I’d love to hear what I deserve having an eptopic pregnancy. Cause you know, I deserve it after having sex

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            • #81
              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
              It takes two to tango, when it's all consensual. Dad should have some say, if he's a real man and takes responsibility for his part in it. The final decision still is with the woman, mind you, but what if dad wants to raise that child, wants to have that child as part of his family?

              To simply cast off the dad is silly, in those cases, IMO.
              Until the dad has to go through 9 months of hell, it's not silly at all.

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              • #82
                Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                Until the dad has to go through 9 months of hell, it's not silly at all.
                And if he wants to see that journey through? To have his child?

                It's a tough subject, and it's difficult to relate if never having been in that situation, for sure.
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                  And if he wants to see that journey through? To have his child?
                  Tough shiat. He doesn't have what is essentially a parasite draining his life force for nine months.

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                  • #84
                    Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                    Originally posted by unofan View Post
                    Tough shiat. He doesn't have what is essentially a parasite draining his life force for nine months.
                    Then one cannot take the stance that Scooby made earlier (the spreading seed comment). Can't have it both ways. IMO.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                      And if he wants to see that journey through? To have his child?

                      It's a tough subject, and it's difficult to relate if never having been in that situation, for sure.
                      Men should know the deal going in. If you risk getting a woman pregnant, it won't ultimately be your choice, because it's not your ****ing body. Tough ****.

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                      • #86
                        Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                        Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                        Men should know the deal going in. If you risk getting a woman pregnant, it won't ultimately be your choice, because it's not your ****ing body. Tough ****.
                        That's my point. Women accept that risk too. Men are "spreading the seed" (c) Scooby, but some women aren't stopping them, either. Women are not blameless. It's a shared responsibility. SOME men know that risk, and think, "Hey, if a kid happens, I'm ready." Yes, it happens.
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                        • #87
                          Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                          I agree with the general sentiment towards Rube but I’d really like the female posters around here to weigh in...
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                            I agree with the general sentiment towards Rube but I’d really like the female posters around here to weigh in...
                            Oh, like those like me with eptopic pregnancies? Yeah, we’re not fans

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                            • #89
                              Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                              Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Oh, like those like me with eptopic pregnancies? Yeah, we’re not fans
                              When it comes to the mother's health, that is a WHOLE different scenario. WAY different. I'm alright with that. I'm talking the general "don't want it, gonna kill it" abortions.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                                That's my point. Women accept that risk too. Men are "spreading the seed" (c) Scooby, but some women aren't stopping them, either. Women are not blameless. It's a shared responsibility. SOME men know that risk, and think, "Hey, if a kid happens, I'm ready." Yes, it happens.
                                And my point is that they should know that that's only part of it. What they should be thinking is "Hey, if a kid happens, I'm ready, but she may not want to continue the pregnancy, and that will ultimately be her choice to make, and that could suck for me, so..."

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