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  • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    To be fair, the southern MN first district has some good diversity. It has Rochester, Mankato and a major stretch of Mississippi and voted for Obama while keeping Dem Walz in office for over a decade. The flip of the first and similar districts is why we have Trump.

    NYS pretty much breaks down to urban-heterogeneous-liberal vs rural-white-fascist. Are the midwestern purp(ish) states like that or is there a different dynamic?

    The South is very different. Some of the worst districts in the South have large minority black populations. The whites there know black people but are still monsters and/or morons.
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          • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            NYS pretty much breaks down to urban-heterogeneous-liberal vs rural-white-fascist. Are the midwestern purp(ish) states like that or is there a different dynamic?
            They default to that. But the upper midwest can be different. There are lunchpale and to a lesser extent limosine liberal enclaves in the nicer rural areas. MN has stretches along the so. Mississippi and the NE arrowhead region including the lakefront, the boundary waters and much of the iron range. Wisconsin's side of the Mississippi is also fairly liberal - but those places were largely lost in 2016. I doubt its permanent. IMO we just need a moderate D candidate to win them back.
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            • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

              Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
              To be fair, the southern MN first district has some good diversity. It has Rochester, Mankato and a major stretch of Mississippi and voted for Obama while keeping Dem Walz in office for over a decade. The flip of the first and similar districts is why we have Trump.
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                I will say that my Edina Nextdoor feed is perhaps the saddest, most hostile I’ve ever seen it. Two huge threads about the lake Calhoun name. Tons of old people saying “maybe we should change nokomis back to its original white name, see how fair that is” to people saying everyone is racist, and some middle aged white dudes telling people that it’s not a big deal and it’s dumb to honor the Native American name. It culminated in some dude telling someone else that both he and his dogs were ****ty beings.

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                  The Calhoun thing.....change that name! But hey, let's keep Teddy Roosevelt's name on everything. To me, it's all a bunch of BS. Unless it's a racist/etc WORD (see: squaw), let it be.
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                  • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                    The Calhoun thing.....change that name! But hey, let's keep Teddy Roosevelt's name on everything. To me, it's all a bunch of BS. Unless it's a racist/etc WORD (see: squaw), let it be.
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                    • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      Uh wut
                      If people want to eradicate every name that is associated with racism....goodbye Mt Rushmore, national landmarks, etc. Use them as a teaching tool. Don't eradicate mistakes.
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                      • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                        There's a bit more to it than Calhoun just being racist lol. Same with Lee and any of the confederate monuments.

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                        • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                          There's a bit more to it than Calhoun just being racist lol. Same with Lee and any of the confederate monuments.
                          Not that I've seen in any articles and such. Everything points to them being racist.

                          Edit: I don't LIKE them being racist, don't get me wrong, but we are picking and choosing names here...and doing it for the wrong reasons.
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                          • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                            Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                            The Calhoun thing.....change that name! But hey, let's keep Teddy Roosevelt's name on everything. To me, it's all a bunch of BS. Unless it's a racist/etc WORD (see: squaw), let it be.
                            Did TR think slavery was good for blacks? Nope, but Calhoun 120% did. He was definitely one of the guys citing the Bible as a justification, too.

                            Was TR a states' rights fanatic who supported nullification? Nope, not even close. Calhoun sure as hell did - he was a hardcore believer in federal minarchy. No question he'd have been the first to call for secession if he'd lived long enough.

                            The South lost. There's plenty of opportunity to teach kids about these fcksticks in the history books, without having any monuments in their honor. TR, despite his faults, did plenty that was good for America; Calhoun and his ilk wanted to maintain an oppressive and backwards society. Fck them, and let their statuary melt.

                            EDIT: Not to mention, quite possibly the worst case of Resting A55hole Face in American history. Seriously, he makes Andrew Jackson and Ted Cruz look likable.
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                            • Re: The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

                              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              Did TR think slavery was good for blacks? Nope, but Calhoun 120% did. He was definitely one of the guys citing the Bible as a justification, too.

                              Was TR a states' rights fanatic who supported nullification? Nope, not even close. Calhoun sure as hell did - he was a hardcore believer in federal minarchy. No question he'd have been the first to call for secession if he'd lived long enough.

                              The South lost. There's plenty of opportunity to teach kids about these fcksticks in the history books, without having any monuments in their honor. TR, despite his faults, did plenty that was good for America; Calhoun and his ilk wanted to maintain an oppressive and backwards society. Fck them, and let their statuary melt.

                              EDIT: Not to mention, quite possibly the worst case of Resting A55hole Face in American history. Seriously, he makes Andrew Jackson and Ted Cruz look likable.
                              Roosevelt: 'I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are'.

                              Just saying, be consistent. If you are going to eliminate a name or monument for one, because s/he is racist, eliminate them all. Don't be a hypocrite.
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                              • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                Did TR think slavery was good for blacks? Nope, but Calhoun 120% did. He was definitely one of the guys citing the Bible as a justification, too.
                                Right, there’s a huge difference between racism and fighting for slavery being one of your main accomplishments in life that everyone remembers you for.

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