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  • solovsfett
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The CIA murdered JFK and probably RFK, yes, obviously. It's possible they murdered MLK. Perhaps they just had a thing about TLAs.

    Let's give the probabilities:

    .95 JFK (I mean, duh)
    .67 RFK
    .50 MLK

    But Ryan was murdered by Jim Jones. That may have been extremely good news for the CIA, but I see nothing to connect events. Sometimes the china breaks by itself.
    There’s a video called Evidence Of Revision out on dvd where the argument is made that Jonestown was part of a cia program akin to mkultra and documents Jim jones as being an asset of the company not just in Jonestown but stretching back 20 years prior. They assert Leo Ryan was shot on the tarmac as Richard Dwyer (cia) left him by the plane.

    I won’t state I unequivocally believe this because I have only this video to go on. But at this point with what i’m Reading now of post-jfk cia, I don’t discount anything.

    Here is a link, you’ll need to forward a bit to get to Jonestown info.

    https://youtu.be/nus9mnbvflM

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
    save for representative Leo Ryan who was murdered for his efforts.
    The CIA murdered JFK and probably RFK, yes, obviously. It's possible they murdered MLK. Perhaps they just had a thing about TLAs.

    Let's give the probabilities:

    .95 JFK (I mean, duh)
    .67 RFK
    .50 MLK

    But Ryan was murdered by Jim Jones. That may have been extremely good news for the CIA, but I see nothing to connect events. Sometimes the china breaks by itself.

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  • solovsfett
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Very interesting article on Lisa Pease’s RFK book (ahem, looking at you Robert Maheu). In a nutshell, cia basically took over in the 60’s and no oversight since then save for representative Leo Ryan who was murdered for his efforts.

    https://t.co/KswNxo0h5G

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  • aparch
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    This reminds me of a high school teacher I had who shared with us one day a book about a similar US Governement program, (if I recall correctly,) named Sun Streak where the author talked about his time in the program. Sort of a low-tech Matrix-y environment.

    If anyone recalls the book of the US program, I'd be interested in reading it again.

    *edit* A-ha! Either my Google-Fu is good this morning, or the black helicopters allowed my search to go through... David Morehouse's Psychic Warrior is the book.
    Last edited by aparch; 04-04-2019, 09:03 AM.

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  • solovsfett
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Another good article on Malcolm X: https://t.co/jzprhatQbA

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    But you've claimed the USG has removed a President (JFK) by non-A25* means once already.


    *Yes, yes, A25 wasn't ratified in 1963, much less submitted to the States yet.
    The CIA murdered the President. In case you are wondering, I'm against that.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.
    But you've claimed the USG has removed a President (JFK) by non-A25* means once already.


    *Yes, yes, A25 wasn't ratified in 1963, much less submitted to the States yet.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?
    Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.

    I know somebody supporting a party that worships pure power and doesn't give a crap about process and law will find this difficult to process, but we are a nation of laws. Removal due to 25A would proceed by Constitutional means or be struck down by the courts. In particular this Court. Or perhaps you'd like to re-litigate Bush v Gore?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.
    Oh, I'm tracking now.

    Deposing Dump should be easier than JFK. He already has less than half a brain.

    Perhaps you should review the 25th Amendment before opining on how it's a "coup." No doubt you'll think when Dumpy loses in 2020 that that is also one.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.
    That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Forces inside the USG might try to take out a duly elected President?
    Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    It'd been better if you'd have listed as ...

    JFK
    RFK
    MLK
    That would have been better. I am suck.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    JFK
    RFK
    Martin
    ?

    I'm convinced Malcolm was killed by Elijah Muhammad and Nation of Islam.
    It'd been better if you'd have listed as ...

    JFK
    RFK
    MLK

    ... oh... kay?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Meaning it's not an insane theory.

    It has always been obvious to me that JFK was killed by a reactionary splinter group inside the CIA, but I hadn't extended it to RFK. It was enough that an institution within the USG assassinated an American president. Once you have accepted that... nothing else really seems to matter one way or the other.
    Forces inside the USG might try to take out a duly elected President?

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