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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.
    But you've claimed the USG has removed a President (JFK) by non-A25* means once already.


    *Yes, yes, A25 wasn't ratified in 1963, much less submitted to the States yet.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?
    Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.

    I know somebody supporting a party that worships pure power and doesn't give a crap about process and law will find this difficult to process, but we are a nation of laws. Removal due to 25A would proceed by Constitutional means or be struck down by the courts. In particular this Court. Or perhaps you'd like to re-litigate Bush v Gore?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.
    Oh, I'm tracking now.

    Deposing Dump should be easier than JFK. He already has less than half a brain.

    Perhaps you should review the 25th Amendment before opining on how it's a "coup." No doubt you'll think when Dumpy loses in 2020 that that is also one.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.
    That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Forces inside the USG might try to take out a duly elected President?
    Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    It'd been better if you'd have listed as ...

    JFK
    RFK
    MLK
    That would have been better. I am suck.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    JFK
    RFK
    Martin
    ?

    I'm convinced Malcolm was killed by Elijah Muhammad and Nation of Islam.
    It'd been better if you'd have listed as ...

    JFK
    RFK
    MLK

    ... oh... kay?

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Meaning it's not an insane theory.

    It has always been obvious to me that JFK was killed by a reactionary splinter group inside the CIA, but I hadn't extended it to RFK. It was enough that an institution within the USG assassinated an American president. Once you have accepted that... nothing else really seems to matter one way or the other.
    Forces inside the USG might try to take out a duly elected President?

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  • solovsfett
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    JFK
    RFK
    Martin
    ?

    I'm convinced Malcolm was killed by Elijah Muhammad and Nation of Islam.
    Malcolm, however my caveat is I have not read enough yet to know how cia ties to the murder. I know the author of this article is writing a book on it:

    http://kennedysandking.com/malcolm-x-articles/the-murder-and-martyrdom-of-malcolm-x

    My limited understanding is cia and fbi both worked to split the Nation of Islam but until Douglass’ book comes out and I read more newspaper accounts, police reports and/or other books on it I have to say I don’t have a grasp on the facts and circumstances of X’s murder.

    To add to the list, Black Panther leader Fred Hampton murdered in Chicago by 2 cia connected cops.

    And possibly Representative Leo Ryan and Allard Lowestein. But these two i’m Scratching the surface on. Not a lot of info available.

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
    the big 4 murders
    JFK
    RFK
    Martin
    ?

    I'm convinced Malcolm was killed by Elijah Muhammad and Nation of Islam.

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  • solovsfett
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    They're waiting until RFK is only abstract history, not living memory.

    You can murder anybody as long as it's long enough ago. Just look what the right has done with slavery.
    You are absolutely correct. I just hope someday our country will change...

    Here is the arrogance on display after they’d gotten away with the big 4 murders; Richard Helms to congress telling them to **** right off essentially: https://youtu.be/ycSYyuXy8Mw

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
    That’s true and I’ve wondered why they haven’t done a mea culpa already since Americans love apologies and will forgive ****near anything.

    Guess i’ll be 70-80 before they consider revealing the truth...
    They're waiting until RFK is only abstract history, not living memory.

    You can murder anybody as long as it's long enough ago. Just look what the right has done with slavery.

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  • solovsfett
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    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    We need to get another 10-20 years down the road until they can admit it. It won't kill the CIA; they will simply say "this stuff happened back when it was the wild west but we're past that now; you wouldn't blame Pope Francis for the Medicis."

    It helps that pretty much everybody involved is dead.
    That’s true and I’ve wondered why they haven’t done a mea culpa already since Americans love apologies and will forgive ****near anything.

    Guess i’ll be 70-80 before they consider revealing the truth...

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  • Kepler
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
    Ya know? If congress did their jobs this could be resolved very quickly. Albeit one acronym agency at least would be dissolved.
    We need to get another 10-20 years down the road until they can admit it. It won't kill the CIA; they will simply say "this stuff happened back when it was the wild west but we're past that now; you wouldn't blame Pope Francis for the Medicis."

    It helps that pretty much everybody involved is dead.

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