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  • #16
    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    It'd been better if you'd have listed as ...

    JFK
    RFK
    MLK
    That would have been better. I am suck.
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    • #17
      Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      Forces inside the USG might try to take out a duly elected President?
      Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.
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      • #18
        Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Yes, that is the premise. Those f-cks played for keeps and they had an ironclad self-delusion that they were above petty things like law and morality because "we are fighting an existential threat, you can't be lawful or moral if you're dead, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, you need me on that wall," blah blah blah. The siren song of the authoritarian dunce.
        That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.
        The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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        • #19
          Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
          That could never happen again, USG forces aligning to remove a duly elected President I mean.
          Oh, I'm tracking now.

          Deposing Dump should be easier than JFK. He already has less than half a brain.

          Perhaps you should review the 25th Amendment before opining on how it's a "coup." No doubt you'll think when Dumpy loses in 2020 that that is also one.
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          • #20
            Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

            Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?
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            • #21
              Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

              Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
              Following the Constitutional process is not a coup. Will they?
              Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.

              I know somebody supporting a party that worships pure power and doesn't give a crap about process and law will find this difficult to process, but we are a nation of laws. Removal due to 25A would proceed by Constitutional means or be struck down by the courts. In particular this Court. Or perhaps you'd like to re-litigate Bush v Gore?
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              • #22
                Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Um, if they don't then nothing happens. That's pretty simple.
                But you've claimed the USG has removed a President (JFK) by non-A25* means once already.


                *Yes, yes, A25 wasn't ratified in 1963, much less submitted to the States yet.
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                • #23
                  Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                  Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                  But you've claimed the USG has removed a President (JFK) by non-A25* means once already.


                  *Yes, yes, A25 wasn't ratified in 1963, much less submitted to the States yet.
                  The CIA murdered the President. In case you are wondering, I'm against that.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                    Another good article on Malcolm X: https://t.co/jzprhatQbA
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                    "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!




                      This reminds me of a high school teacher I had who shared with us one day a book about a similar US Governement program, (if I recall correctly,) named Sun Streak where the author talked about his time in the program. Sort of a low-tech Matrix-y environment.

                      If anyone recalls the book of the US program, I'd be interested in reading it again.

                      *edit* A-ha! Either my Google-Fu is good this morning, or the black helicopters allowed my search to go through... David Morehouse's Psychic Warrior is the book.
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                      • #26
                        Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                        Very interesting article on Lisa Pease’s RFK book (ahem, looking at you Robert Maheu). In a nutshell, cia basically took over in the 60’s and no oversight since then save for representative Leo Ryan who was murdered for his efforts.

                        https://t.co/KswNxo0h5G
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                        "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                        "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                        Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                        • #27
                          Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                          Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                          save for representative Leo Ryan who was murdered for his efforts.
                          The CIA murdered JFK and probably RFK, yes, obviously. It's possible they murdered MLK. Perhaps they just had a thing about TLAs.

                          Let's give the probabilities:

                          .95 JFK (I mean, duh)
                          .67 RFK
                          .50 MLK

                          But Ryan was murdered by Jim Jones. That may have been extremely good news for the CIA, but I see nothing to connect events. Sometimes the china breaks by itself.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            The CIA murdered JFK and probably RFK, yes, obviously. It's possible they murdered MLK. Perhaps they just had a thing about TLAs.

                            Let's give the probabilities:

                            .95 JFK (I mean, duh)
                            .67 RFK
                            .50 MLK

                            But Ryan was murdered by Jim Jones. That may have been extremely good news for the CIA, but I see nothing to connect events. Sometimes the china breaks by itself.
                            There’s a video called Evidence Of Revision out on dvd where the argument is made that Jonestown was part of a cia program akin to mkultra and documents Jim jones as being an asset of the company not just in Jonestown but stretching back 20 years prior. They assert Leo Ryan was shot on the tarmac as Richard Dwyer (cia) left him by the plane.

                            I won’t state I unequivocally believe this because I have only this video to go on. But at this point with what i’m Reading now of post-jfk cia, I don’t discount anything.

                            Here is a link, you’ll need to forward a bit to get to Jonestown info.

                            https://youtu.be/nus9mnbvflM
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                            "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                            "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                            Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                            • #29
                              Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                              Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                              I won’t state I unequivocally believe this because I have only this video to go on. But at this point with what i’m Reading now of post-jfk cia, I don’t discount anything.
                              It's called the burden of proof, not the burden of disproof.

                              I'm not saying the CIA wouldn't have murdered Ryan. Obviously, given they murdered the sitting president and their delusional Messianic complex, they'd murder anybody. But there can't just be means, motive, and opportunity -- all three of which, with the Agency in particular and the IC in general, will always be present. There must be evidence and parsimony. With Ryan, like with Malcolm, it is much simpler and more likely he was murdered by other actors with other motives.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 04-04-2019, 02:23 PM.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

                                Here’s one, you may recall Michael Hastings’ Reporting on Iraq, particularly his book The Operators, took down general Stanley McChrystal. He was working a big story on John Brennan when he was killed, or, suffered a single car accident where, well...https://t.co/QOLe9ErPcq


                                60 minutes reported about 10 years ago people could hack cars. Vault7 from Wikileaks confirmed cia has this in their arsenal to dispose of people with no trace back to Langley. Is that what happened here? I have no idea.
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                                "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                                "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                                Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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