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  • Originally posted by Swansong View Post
    Oh I'm fully prepared for this to be a big nothing. Would be nice to see them all turn against one another though...
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    • Yeah, I am so far from celebrating this. I'm not going to believe anything will come of it till I see it happen.

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      • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
        Yeah, I am so far from celebrating this. I'm not going to believe anything will come of it till I see it happen.
        Samesies.

        Only way somebody rich and connected ever pays a price is when the rest of the clan turns their back on him, like Madoff or Durst. Otherwise they are exempt from the justice system because it has been engineered that way. It's landowners murdering their tenants. We're ants to them.
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        • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

          You must’ve read the book and know that image isn’t receiving capitalism. Why use it here in that manner?
          Because I did read the book. The point of the plot "twist" was that communism was "all animals are equal," and it was betrayed when the pigs because the new owners and "more equal than others." The indictment isn't of communism per se, but of Stalinism and capitalism. It's the Fourth International declaring Stalinism has betrayed the Revolution and established just another bunch of gangsters at the top, just like in capitalism.
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          • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
            Yeah, I am so far from celebrating this. I'm not going to believe anything will come of it till I see it happen.
            If they had the goods, they would be too busy drafting the charging document to tweet.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              Because I did read the book. The point of the plot "twist" was that communism was "all animals are equal," and it was betrayed when the pigs because the new owners and "more equal than others." The indictment isn't of communism per se, but of Stalinism and capitalism. It's the Fourth International declaring Stalinism has betrayed the Revolution and established just another bunch of gangsters at the top, just like in capitalism.
              Except that Orwell was an avowed socialist, and hated communism because he saw some version of Stalinism as its inevitable result.
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              • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

                Except that Orwell was an avowed socialist, and hated communism because he saw some version of Stalinism as its inevitable result.
                Then call "all animals are equal" socialism, if you prefer. The point is gangsterism is bad, whether it's Stalin or Thatcher.
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                • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

                  Except that Orwell was an avowed socialist, and hated communism because he saw some version of Stalinism as its inevitable result.
                  Which kinda is the point of the book, no?
                  What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                  • Originally posted by rufus View Post

                    Which kinda is the point of the book, no?
                    My takeaway has always been that gangsters (aka authoritarians) can pervert *any* system of government, even one that has the most noble of intentions, which is to ensure that we are all equal.
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                    • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                      NY AG announces that three people have fu**ed around and the AG has found out about it....

                      https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/s...52355442847748

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                      • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        Except that Orwell was an avowed socialist, and hated communism because he saw some version of Stalinism as its inevitable result.
                        Because it is. Who the **** wants to live and work on a farming collective or in a state factory for 40 years? A handful of hippies, maybe. Everyone else has to be forced to do it.

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                        • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                          Because it is. Who the **** wants to live and work on a farming collective or in a state factory for 40 years? A handful of hippies, maybe. Everyone else has to be forced to do it.
                          That isn't necessarily what communism is -- Trotsky argued that democracy is essential for communism to work -- but for me it's a non-starter because I like private property since it keeps me safe from the rest of you.

                          Give me socialism and gated communities.
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                          • Originally posted by aparch View Post

                            Oh I'm fully prepared for this to be a big nothing. Would be nice to see them all turn against one another though...
                            Kind of how I feel as well. I think this is the best shot we've seen so far. Will it work? *shrug* Myabe, but probably not.
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                            • I doubt anyone thinks this will go anywhere...even the AG.
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                              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                I doubt anyone thinks this will go anywhere...even the AG.
                                Sure, why would breaking the law have consequences for the plutes? Martha Stewart must have been one awful plute cause what she did is nowhere near what the Orange Baboon has done.
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