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  • Originally posted by rufus View Post

    It's not brain damage. It's just Trump's inherent programming that he just cannot wrap his tiny little mind around the concept of someone doing something selflessly, that no one does anything unless there is some benefit to themselves in doing so.
    This is a good point. Sociopathy is people with a certain brain working exactly correctly. It's not that the part of the brain that allows empathy is damaged. It isn't there. They are completely "healthy."

    Now, the people who put them into a position of responsibility and power? Those people's brains are not working correctly, if at all.
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    • DIAF Melanie

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      • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

        I find it hard to believe there are enough "undecided" voters left to move the election one way or another. On September 4, 2020 I cannot fathom a person being unable to know whether or not trump has earned his or her vote. There is nothing that will change the mind of a trump voter at this point in the game. And I mean "nothing" literally. If trump were to murder a soldier, 5h!t on his dead body and then go fvck his widow on prime time TV, a trump voter today will still be a trump voter tomorrow.

        trump voters are every bit the issue that trump is. They are dangerous and bad for the country.
        You are absolutely correct about anyone still committed to voting for El Hefty. Where there is still a bit of opportunity is in convincing people who aren't all that enthusiastic about Biden to vote for him, instead of leaving the POTUS section blank like my mom recently said she is contemplating. *sigh*

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        • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
          Of course trump is saying he doesn’t believe Germany that the Russian guy was poisoned. He needs to see evidence, he says.
          He hates Merkel and is incapable of criticizing Russia and Putin on any matter, so this is no surprise.

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          • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

            You are absolutely correct about anyone still committed to voting for El Hefty. Where there is still a bit of opportunity is in convincing people who aren't all that enthusiastic about Biden to vote for him, instead of leaving the POTUS section blank like my mom recently said she is contemplating. *sigh*
            As ridiculous as that is it beats a vote for Dump.

            Can you talk to your Mom at all about stuff like this?
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            • Leaving it blank is what got him the win last time. (especially in Michigan) A blank vote is a vote for Trump.
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              • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                Leaving it blank is what got him the win last time. (especially in Michigan) A blank vote is a vote for Trump.
                It depends. A blank vote/3rd party vote is the equivalent of a half vote for the person whom they wouldn't have voted for if they had a gun to their head. A blank vote is better than a vote for Trump if that's what the other choice would've been.

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                • Yes that is very true good point. That said in Michigan the blank votes tended to be in Blue Areas IIRC. (same in the other Blue Wall States)
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                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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                  • There was a boat parade for Dumpie in Texas today.

                    Four of them sank.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • Donnie says he called home to Melanie to tell her how much he was looking forward to visiting the cemetary in France, and how upset he was that the visit had to be cancelled.

                      Melanie accompanied him on the trip to France.
                      What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                      • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        Leaving it blank is what got him the win last time. (especially in Michigan) A blank vote is a vote for Trump.
                        Originally posted by unofan View Post

                        It depends. A blank vote/3rd party vote is the equivalent of a half vote for the person whom they wouldn't have voted for if they had a gun to their head. A blank vote is better than a vote for Trump if that's what the other choice would've been.


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                        • Originally posted by busterman62 View Post





                          Do you understand the Games Back column in baseball standings?

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                          • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                            Do you understand the Games Back column in baseball standings?
                            Sure. The problem with attempting to correlate the two is that Baseball standings involve losses. There is no equivalent of a loss in voting

                            ETA:
                            A third party vote and not voting at all affects the D & R candidate equally. Here is the simple math:

                            Prior to my vote, the tally stands as follows:
                            D votes equals x
                            R votes equal y
                            T votes equals z
                            Placing a vote for party T now makes the values
                            D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
                            R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
                            T votes = z+1 (the Δ in z = +1)
                            Both D & R have an equal Δ therefore are affected similarly.

                            Prior to my non-vote, the tally stands as follows:
                            D votes equals x
                            R votes equal y
                            T votes equals z
                            By not placing a vote for any party the values are as follows
                            D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
                            R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
                            T votes = z+0 (the Δ in z = 0)
                            T & D & R have an equal Δ and therefore are affected similarly
                            Last edited by busterman62; 09-05-2020, 09:08 PM.
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                            • Searching twitter it would seem there is some interesting tidbits in Michael Cohen's book...
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                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

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                              • Originally posted by busterman62 View Post

                                Sure. The problem with attempting to correlate the two is that Baseball standings involve losses. There is no equivalent of a loss in voting

                                ETA:
                                A third party vote and not voting at all affects the D & R candidate equally. Here is the simple math:

                                Prior to my vote, the tally stands as follows:
                                D votes equals x
                                R votes equal y
                                T votes equals z
                                Placing a vote for party T now makes the values
                                D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
                                R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
                                T votes = z+1 (the Δ in z = +1)
                                Both D & R have an equal Δ therefore are affected similarly.

                                Prior to my non-vote, the tally stands as follows:
                                D votes equals x
                                R votes equal y
                                T votes equals z
                                By not placing a vote for any party the values are as follows
                                D votes = x+0 (the Δ in x = 0)
                                R votes = y+0 (the Δ in y = 0)
                                T votes = z+0 (the Δ in z = 0)
                                T & D & R have an equal Δ and therefore are affected similarly
                                There's no loss column, but there are W's to be had outside of head to head matchups. If Team Y beats Team Z, Team Y gains a half game on Team X.

                                To steal from your analogy,

                                T's preferences are Z>X>Y. Were a gun held to his head, he would vote for X over Y.

                                Y leads by one vote. If T votes for Z (or abstains), Y wins. If T votes for X, it's a tie. By voting for Z (or abstaining), he hurts X and helps Y. Not as much as voting for Y would've done, but enough to change the election.

                                Put another way:
                                An Obama-Trump voter essentially acts as a -1 to the Dems and a +1 to the GOP.
                                An Obama-Stein voter, or an Obama-no vote, is still a -1 to the Dems but a +0 to the GOP, having half the effect of the Obama-Trump voter.

                                Put a 3rd way:

                                There will be around 130,000,000 votes cast this fall for President. Every vote Biden or Trump gets is not only a +1 in their column, but a vote the other guy cannot get. A 3rd party voter is still a vote the other guy cannot get, but is also one that their preferred candidate of the 2 major parties does not get. By not giving his preferred major party candidate that vote, he's helping out the other side half as much as someone who votes for the other side.
                                Last edited by unofan; 09-05-2020, 10:43 PM.

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