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[dxmnkd316]

John Kelly is as big of a piece of **** as the rest of them. This parade of rats fleeing the sinking ship and trying to launder their reputations would be laughable if it wasn't for the media lapping it all up like trained dogs. ****ing disheartening.

[Swansong]

... but he'll vote for him if he's the GQP nominee.

[French Rage]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/polit...mbers-veterans

John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

[dxmnkd316]

Yup. Trump - and the rest of the MAGAverse - lives in this "win today, f tomorrow" mindset. No thought whatsoever to the future. It amazes me to see people just constantly debase themselves for him.

Ah. C suite greatest hits.

[RaceBoarder]

Interesting thoughts on the MAGA Cult and their large, hybrid compound (RW fringe Internet + church + other conservative social groups/clubs). And how that same advantage also makes it a little easier to gradually peel off and deprogram some of them, even if they don't necessarily make a big public show of renouncing their support and groveling for forgiveness.

Not sure I agree with all of it, but I definitely concur that 2024 is a crucial election. If we can put them down hard at the polls and get their corrupt-as-fck leader and his associates behind bars on very legitimate charges that go far beyond mere "process crime", we will have passed the turning point of the MAGA Cult being a serious threat. The current GOP feels like the Second KKK/Indiana Klan in about 1925. The more you expose their leaders as corrupt hypocrites who conned them, the more the rank-and-file quit showing up to rallies, throw out the robes/hats, and quietly slink away in shame.

It's gonna take time though to mend bridges with this however. MAGA has literally split up families. It'll take years in many cases before relatives speak to one another again. This just isn't a quick spat where all is forgiven in a month or two. This is going to be an issue for YEARS.

[Swansong]

You can practically hear his handlers in the background pleading for him to stfu.

Oh and good luck Elmo.

On the trump video: I love that he just keeps rolling with the "people are saying" thing. And well, yeah. After you plant that in their stupid heads, they sure are. As to the rest, eh. He's going to lose this case. He's already lost the important parts of it. What does he have to lose at this point? They're playing for an appeal.

On the Musk suit: good. F this piece of crap.

[French Rage]

"Some people say".

[Slap Shot]

You can practically hear his handlers in the background pleading for him to stfu.

Oh and good luck Elmo.

[rufus]

But Biden's the senile one.

https://***********/RonFilipkowski/s...covering-it-up

[Swansong]

Oh man. Trump isn't getting a jury trial in the NY civil case because "nobody asked for a jury", per the judge.


The best lawyers money can buy.

Some clarification here after reading more. The original story was mostly correct, but not fully.

In NY civil cases, plaintiff (in this case, the AG) indicates whether they want a jury trial or not. Then the judge agrees or disagrees, and then the defendant can object or not.

In this case, the AG indicated NO jury. The judge accepted it, and Team Fraud did not object. There is some suggestion that they had planned to object at the last second but due to a million reasons (mostly related to RICO in Georgia as well as last weeks somewhat surprise bench ruling), they did not object in time. That they did not do so today sorta dumps water on that idea, but who knows. These are not competent people.

[Kepler]

Hey, he's not all bad.

[Swansong]

Yup. Trump - and the rest of the MAGAverse - lives in this "win today, f tomorrow" mindset. No thought whatsoever to the future. It amazes me to see people just constantly debase themselves for him.

[burd]

Following some Twitter reporters in the court room, it's going very badly for Alina Habba. She referred to opening statements as "testimony" (which they are absolutely not and any lawyer who's ever been in a courtroom should know this) repeatedly and the judge corrects her each time. Apparently she keeps bringing up previously-decided issues as well.

Look, he's going to lose this case and what happens after is anyone's guess. But if Habba has any interest in actually being a lawyer after all of this, she's doing a bad job at that.

One of the better trial lawyers I tried cases with specifically stated to the jury during his own opening that opening statement is not evidence. It was his way of showing candor and building trust with the jury. "Don't just believe me because of what I say; look at the evidence that comes in through the witness stand."

[Swansong]

Following some Twitter reporters in the court room, it's going very badly for Alina Habba. She referred to opening statements as "testimony" (which they are absolutely not and any lawyer who's ever been in a courtroom should know this) repeatedly and the judge corrects her each time. Apparently she keeps bringing up previously-decided issues as well.

Look, he's going to lose this case and what happens after is anyone's guess. But if Habba has any interest in actually being a lawyer after all of this, she's doing a bad job at that.

[Swansong]

They probably figured a NYC jury was not a good option, and jury findings are more difficult to appeal than judicial ones, though courts of appeal usually lay off a trial judge's findings regarding witness credibility and other aspects of witness testimony.

Plus, if they simply didn't ask it's tough to appeal the decision to honor the (lack of) request.