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  • Democrats may not be able to put the republican party out of business but maybe they'll do it to themselves. While I would hope the media would just stop giving trump oxygen I know that isn't going to happen. So the next best thing will be to give him a platform to launch the trump party (I even hope he names it that) because if we can get the republican vote split down the middle between the GOP and the trump party for an election cycle or two, neither party would survive beyond 4 years. And that would be sweeeeeeeet.

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    • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

      I graduated high school an indoctrinated Republican. I graduated college a Libertarian. By the time I left my first full-time job, I was a Democrat.
      I know a lot of people who took a path like that.

      They come out of the south or midwest where conservatism is ubiquitous.

      They go to college and meet diverse people so the racism and religious f-ckwittery drop away. They become "socially liberal, fiscally conservative," so they get attracted to libertarianism. It's turbocharged if they are STEM males for whom libertarianism is a circle jerk.

      Then they get out of school, mature, maybe get married and have kids and realize the world doesn't revolve around them and social responsibilities exist. So they abandon the libertarian cult for the Democrats.

      Personal growth is good.
      Last edited by Kepler; 02-21-2021, 03:38 PM.
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      • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
        Democrats may not be able to put the republican party out of business but maybe they'll do it to themselves. While I would hope the media would just stop giving trump oxygen I know that isn't going to happen. So the next best thing will be to give him a platform to launch the trump party (I even hope he names it that) because if we can get the republican vote split down the middle between the GOP and the trump party for an election cycle or two, neither party would survive beyond 4 years. And that would be sweeeeeeeet.
        I think that kind of split is a sound reflection of where the American Right is. About 2/3 are Nazis and 1/3 are the olde-style Reaganite Plute scam. A formal Bull Moose break would give us roughly:

        .55 Democrats
        .30 Nazis
        .15 Plutes

        I think most of the undercard would run either a P or an N, not both, so it might not significantly increase the Dem Congressional majorities, but it would obviously cripple the Right for national office.

        I'll take what I can get.
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        • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          Democrats may not be able to put the republican party out of business but maybe they'll do it to themselves. While I would hope the media would just stop giving trump oxygen I know that isn't going to happen. So the next best thing will be to give him a platform to launch the trump party (I even hope he names it that) because if we can get the republican vote split down the middle between the GOP and the trump party for an election cycle or two, neither party would survive beyond 4 years. And that would be sweeeeeeeet.
          Why would Trump start his own party made up of only 46% of his supporters, when he can just stay in the GOP and keep the whole enchilada?

          If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

            I know a lot of people who took a path like that.

            They come out of the south or midwest where conservatism is ubiquitous.

            They go to college and meet diverse people so the racism and religious f-ckwittery drop away. They become "socially liberal, fiscally conservative," so they get attracted to libertarianism. It's turbocharged if they are STEM males for whom libertarianism is a circle jerk.

            Then they get out of school, mature, maybe get married and have kids and realize the world doesn't revolve around them and social responsibilities exist. So they abandon the libertarian cult for the Democrats.

            Personal growth is good.
            This is pretty accurate for me except that I never went hardcore libertarian. I was too immersed in studies and then career in my 20s to be too deliberate about exploring my political beliefs. When I re-awoke a decade later, I was a bit surprised to discover that I was a liberal. Or, at least, I somehow happened to agree with the liberal position on each issue.

            Oh - and it didn’t require kids for me, either - those wouldn’t come along for another 15 years.
            If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              I know a lot of people who took a path like that.

              They come out of the south or midwest where conservatism is ubiquitous.

              They go to college and meet diverse people so the racism and religious f-ckwittery drop away. They become "socially liberal, fiscally conservative," so they get attracted to libertarianism. It's turbocharged if they are STEM males for whom libertarianism is a circle jerk.

              Then they get out of school, mature, maybe get married and have kids and realize the world doesn't revolve around them and social responsibilities exist. So they abandon the libertarian cult for the Democrats.

              Personal growth is good.
              This is kind of me. But I also fall under the umbrella of being a Millenial who is just now finding a secure financial footing after barely scraping by since graduating 12 years ago. So financial hardship really opened my eyes to the need for social services/safety nets.
              It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities

              Go Cats!!! GO BLACKHAWKS!

              Cuck the Fubs... Let's Go WHITE SOX!!!

              Wildcat Born, Wildcat Bred....

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              • Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
                Why would Trump start his own party made up of only 46% of his supporters, when he can just stay in the GOP and keep the whole enchilada?
                It may break the other way, with the Plutes bolting.
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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                  It may break the other way, with the Plutes bolting.
                  Dems already have half the Plutes, may as well take as many of the rest as we can.

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                  • He wasn't a mastermind. He wasn't an evil genius. He was just a dope in over his head.
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                    • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                      Dems already have half the Plutes, may as well take as many of the rest as we can.
                      It's tricky to "take their money and still vote against them." I would much prefer to see the Plutes permanently alienate the derps while we shun them. I don't want the droppings of their heists, especially since it's like cocaine to elected officials and irresistibly corrupting. I want to put them in the cages at the border and claw back all that theft.
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                      • Dominion sues Mike Lindell for $1.3B lol

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                        • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                          Dominion sues Mike Lindell for $1.3B lol
                          lmao
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                          • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                            Dominion sues Mike Lindell for $1.3B lol
                            Man, hope he's selling a lot of pillows!
                            If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                            • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                              Dominion sues Mike Lindell for $1.3B lol
                              Not tackling you per se DGF I'm sure this is a new headline, but "Dominion suing Mike Lindell" as a story seems to be repeating itself?

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                              • Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post

                                Not tackling you per se DGF I'm sure this is a new headline, but "Dominion suing Mike Lindell" as a story seems to be repeating itself?
                                The suit was just filed?? Not sure what you’re referring to.

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