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Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
It wasn't late.
edit: and again, it was a nuisance and nothing more.Last edited by Swansong; 11-20-2020, 01:41 PM.I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View Post
It was though. It was obvious first thing in the morning who won (actually, it was obvious by midnight) and she delayed it hours. I was following very closely and for reason that aren't relevant, remember the whole wild week following closely.
edit: and again, it was a nuisance and nothing more.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.
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Id link to them, but many news sites are blocking my view of articles because of my ad blocker (which I wouldn't need if they didn't fill their crappy pages with insane auto-play garbage).
I googled "Hillary clinton delayed concession" and got article after article about it - why it was late, how late it was, why it was unacceptable. I don't know what else to tell you. It's ok to say that she was late. She can be late and Trump can be treasonous. Both things can exist at the same time.I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View PostId link to them, but many news sites are blocking my view of articles because of my ad blocker (which I wouldn't need if they didn't fill their crappy pages with insane auto-play garbage).
I googled "Hillary clinton delayed concession" and got article after article about it - why it was late, how late it was, why it was unacceptable. I don't know what else to tell you. It's ok to say that she was late. She can be late and Trump can be treasonous. Both things can exist at the same time.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.
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Originally posted by Slap Shot View PostCalling it late not only relative to the current moment - but in any way pertaining to what we are witnessing right this now - is splitting freaking hairs at best.
It's not both-sidesing the issue (a concept I can't stand in general, at least how it's now used). I can say that Hillary was unacceptably late in her concession. I can also say, separately, that Trump is so late as to be treasonous. Pointing out Hillary's shortfalls does not indemnify Trump's seditious actions. One is counter to norms, the other is borderline treason.I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View Post
I agree.
It's not both-sidesing the issue (a concept I can't stand in general, at least how it's now used). I can say that Hillary was unacceptably late in her concession. I can also say, separately, that Trump is so late as to be treasonous. Pointing out Hillary's shortfalls does not indemnify Trump's seditious actions. One is counter to norms, the other is borderline treason.**NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.
Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.
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Originally posted by Swansong View PostI can say that Hillary was unacceptably late in her concession.
We can both be full of crap.
But in either case, Dump is a traitor and the GOP are abetting treason. Just like Civil War I, when the going gets tough, the reactionaries show their true colors. They aren't for America, they're for ME, ME, ME and F-CK YOUR FEELINGS. Where for "feelings" read laws, ethics, and country.Last edited by Kepler; 11-20-2020, 03:49 PM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
There was nothing out of norm about it. Worse would have been for her to do what Gore did. The election results were razor thin. If anything she had every right to wait for recounts. She did not. She conceded.
Again, we can point that without diminishing the insane damage the current President is doing to our democracy.I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View PostId link to them, but many news sites are blocking my view of articles because of my ad blocker (which I wouldn't need if they didn't fill their crappy pages with insane auto-play garbage).
Advertising is abuse and advertisers should be hunted to extinction for sport. On public television.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Swansong View Post
I agree.
It's not both-sidesing the issue (a concept I can't stand in general, at least how it's now used). I can say that Hillary was unacceptably late in her concession. I can also say, separately, that Trump is so late as to be treasonous. Pointing out Hillary's shortfalls does not indemnify Trump's seditious actions. One is counter to norms, the other is borderline treason.
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Originally posted by Swansong View Post
Gore took a general righteous approach, in my opinion, but lost (not interested in re-litigating that). Hillary had no path to win by midnight, had nothing so close as to make recounting necessary. She was just... well, she probably felt totally blindsided by the loss. And then delayed her concession unnecessarily. It's ok to acknowledge this. It wasn't a real problem, just violating norms.
Again, we can point that without diminishing the insane damage the current President is doing to our democracy.
And the last thing she wanted to do was concede like Gore did, and then end up pulling back on that a couple of hours later. Knowing what we know about trump, that was clearly a smart move. I think by election day Clinton knew she did not run an effective campaign (even though, like trump she has a hard time admitting she is wrong) and did not want to give trump one more weapon to use against her. I think she timed her concession speech well. Not too early and not too late.Last edited by WeAreNDHockey; 11-20-2020, 04:35 PM.
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