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  • One of my employees is out with Covid. I'm told we have 6 out of the plant either positive or expose. Corporate took away our mandatory masking and social distancing at the beginning of March. Now our covid numbers are going up.

    I also wonder with the availability of at home rapid testing...are reported numbers low to actual numbers? How many people take an at home test, get a positive result, and don't report it to anyone?
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    • Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
      One of my employees is out with Covid. I'm told we have 6 out of the plant either positive or expose. Corporate took away our mandatory masking and social distancing at the beginning of March. Now our covid numbers are going up.

      I also wonder with the availability of at home rapid testing...are reported numbers low to actual numbers? How many people take an at home test, get a positive result, and don't report it to anyone?
      I bet that number is quite high. And the number of places to get PCR tested is dwindling as well. That's what worries me.

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      • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post

        I bet that number is quite high. And the number of places to get PCR tested is dwindling as well. That's what worries me.
        Do you want to try to articulate how a PCR test works?

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        • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post

          I bet that number is quite high. And the number of places to get PCR tested is dwindling as well. That's what worries me.
          Prior to Omicron conventional wisdom was that the true case rate was 5ish times the actual documented rate. With Omicron's insane infectiousness combined with home tests that aren't reported, general consensus was that the true case count was 10+ times the actual count, which is completely insane (the number, not the undercount factor). Considering we shattered case count records with Omicron, that's a scary thing.


          I'll again say that when all is said and done, Omicron will end up being one of the top 5, if not top 3, most transmissible diseases ever recorded.
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          • Originally posted by Scarlet View Post

            I bet that number is quite high. And the number of places to get PCR tested is dwindling as well. That's what worries me.
            On the flip side, we do know that sewage is constantly being monitored for covid DNA, and it's been really close to reality in terms of what is going on.

            And the other part- if the actual reporting was that low, it's actually an indicator of how minor Omicron has been relative to previous versions. And that the only reason it was as deadly as it was is Swansongs point that Omicron could be one of the top most transmissible diseases of all time. Which is sorta, kinda, good news.

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            • Unless something, or someone, takes that mechanism of high transmissibility and attaches it to high lethality.
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Unless something, or someone, takes that mechanism of high transmissibility and attaches it to high lethality.
                The math problem of that is lethality reduces transmissibility by just messing with the numbers. See ebola.

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                • I think it's already claimed the top spot in effective transmission rate
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                  • Originally posted by MichVandal View Post

                    The math problem of that is lethality reduces transmissibility by just messing with the numbers. See ebola.
                    There's also human behavior. Giant amounts of dead bodies piling up everywhere, ala various bubonic plague outbreaks, will get people's attention a lot more that full hospitals that are out of sight and mind. Dead is dead all the same, but a CFR of 10% vs. 1% on something as contagious as even OG Wuhan-strain Covid is an enormous difference.
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                    • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

                      There's also human behavior. Giant amounts of dead bodies piling up everywhere, ala various bubonic plague outbreaks, will get people's attention a lot more that full hospitals that are out of sight and mind. Dead is dead all the same, but a CFR of 10% vs. 1% on something as contagious as even OG Wuhan-strain Covid is an enormous difference.
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                      Hospitals are always full you should know that.

                      Many hospitals were no more busy than they were prior to Covid. But the TV wouldn’t tell you that would it?


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                      • It's so weird. I keep seeing this thread bumped, but there's no post.

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                        • It could also be Jebbers or someone you have on ignore commenting.
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                          • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                            It could also be Jebbers or someone you have on ignore commenting.
                            (yes, I'm just kidding)
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                            • Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
                              It could also be Jebbers or someone you have on ignore commenting.
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