Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Jimjamesak]

I just thought the board was really interested in my last post…

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Scumbag says how dare you defy doctors in a pandemic?

we live in the stupidest times

https://twitter.com/5dollarfeminist/...2Q0BctcU-pjRMQ

[Jeb2020]

Honk

One year ago today.

CDC Director: "Vaccinated people do not carry the virus”

https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleMarti...06752780238851


4th shot is right around the corner!

These “vaccines” have the shelf life of a gallon of milk.

[Jeb2020]

Can a sane person actually believe that 5 shots of a vaccine formulated to protect from the 2019 version of covid will protect them this coming fall?

[Jeb2020]

Does the whole asymptomatic thing, people with no signs of disease, no symptoms of illness apply to all Covid variants indefinitely?

Honk

[Scarlet]

BA.2 is snapping at our heels.

[Kepler]

BA.2 is snapping at our heels.

So why is BA.2 a variant of Omicron rather than a whole new variant? Does it have to do with the genetic structure and how different it is, like genus/species?

[Kepler]

Scumbag says how dare you defy doctors in a pandemic?

we live in the stupidest times

https://twitter.com/5dollarfeminist/...2Q0BctcU-pjRMQ

We actually live in very smart times. It is just the very stupid people never improve, so as we advance they get farther and farther behind.

Eventually we will just have to domesticate them as strippers and soldiers and businessmen.

[dxmnkd316]

BA.2 is snapping at our heels.

Eh, I mean, it has ticked up somewhat, but I don't think that's a result of BA.2 so much as it is people going out with fewer protections like we have been the last several months. If BA.2 is as transmissible as claimed, it means it's 30% more transmissible than the most infectious disease in history. So it's going to find every nook and cranny and available body to infect.

One other thing. Look at the data she's referencing. Ignore the top graph, that's obviously somewhat misleading given what Omicron does to y-axes. The actual increase in wastewater is still barely above the error bars from the prior weeks. And we're talking really low numbers to begin with.
https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

Here's the graph from the several months prior to Omicron. it was a steady increase from June/July through Sept/Oct and then Omicron took off.


More interesting, she's pointing to the UK as some sort of harbinger of things to come. Which is kind of crazy since it's already on the way down from the second peak and Germany is a much better example anyways. They haven't started coming back down from Omicron and they're only getting worse.

And let's make it very clear, your risk of dying from Omicron if you're boosted is less than a third of that of the flu. So even if you are infected, the risk is incredibly low. Even for hospitalization. Now, if you have other factors like being immunocompromised or caring for someone who is, yeah, definitely take greater precautions. But for the average person and a good margin more, it ain't gonna be Delta and for the public, it ain't gonna be Omicron.

What's this all mean? I dunno. Wear a mask if you want. Take precautions that fit your risk tolerance. My wife and I will be wearing our N95s at TD Garden next week. YMW(ill)V.

[Swansong]

So why is BA.2 a variant of Omicron rather than a whole new variant? Does it have to do with the genetic structure and how different it is, like genus/species?

Yes, as far as I understand. However, it's 30-40% more transmissible than BA.1 so that's kind of not ideal.

However, what makes me extremely curious is that the seroprevalence is over 80-90% here in the Northeast and our numbers are not spiking (they're going up ever so slightly, which requires watching). BA.1 gives substantial immunity to BA.2, so people who were recently sick/infected with BA.1 and have been vaccinated have very little to worry about. I think - hope? - that because BA.1 whalloped us so badly that BA.2 won't have sufficient fertile ground to truly take hold. The parts of the world that seem to be doing really poorly against BA.2 are places that didn't have substantial BA.1 waves (New Zealand, Hong Kong, China in general), have low elderly vaccination rates (Hong Kong, China) or took substantive measures against BA.1 and didn't burn as hot as we did here (most of Europe).

[dxmnkd316]

So why is BA.2 a variant of Omicron rather than a whole new variant? Does it have to do with the genetic structure and how different it is, like genus/species?

Good question. No idea. Omicron is almost an entirely different animal. Seems to infect different areas of the body, spread indescribably fast, and not be that bad for most.

What I find interesting is that BA.1 and BA.2 were discovered within a week of each other, BA.2 actually before BA.1, and somehow BA.1 outcompeted it until now. Something has to have given BA.1 an edge until now. And if BA.2 is as infectious as described, it should have outcompeted. So the whole thing is kinda baffling to me. And more interestingly, BA.1.1 was dominant before BA.2.

So all of this makes me wonder if the latent period is longer for BA.2 than BA.1 (which was significantly shorter than even Delta and thus made it actually somewhat easier to spread initially but also made it more susceptible to rapid interventions). So that might be why BA.2 is outcompeting now. It might be more infectious but spread slower. I don't know. Just sh--itposting. I'm sure someone will figure it out.

[Swansong]

Some info:
https://www.who.int/news/item/22-02-...ublineage-ba.2
(Remember, the prevalent version in the US was BA.1.1, not BA.1)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...u-s-infections
Also, no real evidence that BA.2 came before BA.1

[dxmnkd316]

Some info:
https://www.who.int/news/item/22-02-...ublineage-ba.2
(Remember, the prevalent version in the US was BA.1.1, not BA.1)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...u-s-infections
Also, no real evidence that BA.2 came before BA.1

My mistake. It was first sequenced in a sample a week before BA.1 was reported by the WHO.

Edit:

More info:

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Edit 2: Not fixing that ****. Ugh.

[Jeb2020]

BA.2 is snapping at our heels.

Honk, Honk

[Kepler]

Edit 2: Not fixing that ****. Ugh.

I think if you do paste special flat text it will remove all the crap. But yeah it's unreadable.