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Originally posted by Kepler View Post
Is severity a synonym for lethality or lethality x transmissibility?
I think the jury is still out on hospitals. My analogy earlier about rapidity of spread still holds. It's not good if everyone gets a less lethal variant at the same time. Because while hospitalization rate per 100k goes down, they all happen in a short period. But we just don't know because hospitalizations are a lagging indicator.
transmissibility seems significantly worse. So in some sense, both are good. Sort of. I'd rather have a less lethal variant of something spread rapidly to help provide some immunity to more people.
on the other hand, it means the next step in evolution would/could be to evade immunity as opposed to just being more transmissible. Which is not good. And there's always a chance it mutates into something that has the same transmissibility but is much more lethal.
aside: I was always under the assumption that viruses tend to become more transmissible and less lethal over time. Apparently that's a common misconception. Or rather, it's not a rule or general trend, it just sometimes happens to go that way. At least according to Carl Bergstrom. So maybe we got lucky here.Last edited by dxmnkd316; 12-07-2021, 11:08 AM.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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At some point we need to start rationing mAB for those who need it like the immunocompromised. Omicron is going to seek every potential host out with unprecedented efficiency. The most vulnerable must be protected at the cost of the most selfish.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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There is no supply shortage, fortunately. but there is a crippling staff shortage and a growing clinical space shortage. And this says nothing about the non-clinical staff necessary to get this up and running, support and bill for it.
but why bother with a free vaccine when I get get a very expensive antibody treatment?I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View PostMy hospital system is being overwhelmed by the demand for mAB treatment and are frantically opening up new locations.
But let's just pretend everything is fine.
Oh, wait, that's never happened....
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
Less lethal (and maybe less taxing on our hospitals). I think.
I think the jury is still out on hospitals. My analogy earlier about rapidity of spread still holds. It's not good if everyone gets a less lethal variant at the same time. Because while hospitalization rate per 100k goes down, they all happen in a short period. But we just don't know because hospitalizations are a lagging indicator.
transmissibility seems significantly worse. So in some sense, both are good. Sort of. I'd rather have a less lethal variant of something spread rapidly to help provide some immunity to more people.
on the other hand, it means the next step in evolution would/could be to evade immunity as opposed to just being more transmissible. Which is not good. And there's always a chance it mutates into something that has the same transmissibility but is much more lethal.
aside: I was always under the assumption that viruses tend to become more transmissible and less lethal over time. Apparently that's a common misconception. Or rather, it's not a rule or general trend, it just sometimes happens to go that way. At least according to Carl Bergstrom. So maybe we got lucky here.
A best possible case scenario would be that Omicron is as transmissible as it seems to be (2-4 times moreso than Delta, which... yikes), but much less severe. That way it's effectively a mild cold that everyone gets and then we move on to the endemic phase.
In all likelihood, it's as transmissible as they say but only slighly less severe as Delta, so cases explode again but hospitalization raw number stay pat.
We're 20 months in and clinical staff is burned out. Hospitals are facing crippling staff shortages, not to mention revenue shortfalls. We need a break.I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...
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Originally posted by Swansong View PostThere is no supply shortage, fortunately. but there is a crippling staff shortage and a growing clinical space shortage. And this says nothing about the non-clinical staff necessary to get this up and running, support and bill for it.
but why bother with a free vaccine when I get get a very expensive antibody treatment?What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?
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Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View PostWow. The idiots must be getting desperate.
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Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Postaside: I was always under the assumption that viruses tend to become more transmissible and less lethal over time. Apparently that's a common misconception. Or rather, it's not a rule or general trend, it just sometimes happens to go that way. At least according to Carl Bergstrom. So maybe we got lucky here.
Of course, the article did say it's way too early to know either way, and whether omicron is the mutation that even starts us down that path.
In the meantime, I got my booster last week.Russell Jaslow
[Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
U.S. College Hockey Online
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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...g-some-answers
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Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
This is probably more helpful than that tweet...
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.subs...g-some-answers
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