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  • Donnie thinks his followers will believe anything, no matter how farfetched the gaslighting.

    The thing is, he's not wrong.
    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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    • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
      And I think the rush has more to do with what they are seeing in Israel...which shows some evidence of massive waning immunity. As with all info out of Israel though the results and how they are being interpreted are a bit suspect.

      What is taking the FDA so long on the under 12s?
      My daughter’s pediatrician told us at the 18-month checkup about 2 weeks ago that this round of testing for her 5-12 group is about to conclude. Then it’ll be about 5 months before the shots start going into arms. She thought it would be January for it to happen.

      She also reminded us that she’s not an FDA official, she’s not a testing doc, and only in the know a little more than what’s available to the masses at large. So take it for what it’s worth. (She CYA’d herself from getting in trouble if her timeline was off.)
      "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

      "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

      "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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      • How do kids get involved with vaccine testing? Very curious about that process.

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        • Originally posted by J.D. View Post
          How do kids get involved with vaccine testing? Very curious about that process.
          I assume the parents volunteer them.

          Way back, my uncle was in the polio vaccine study when he was a child. He hated shots. My grandmother always told us she was hoping he got the real shot, because she didn’t want to tell him he needed another shot.

          it turned out, he got the real shot.
          Russell Jaslow
          [Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
          U.S. College Hockey Online

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          • Listening today re the Booster and seeing stuff in the medical online sites-
            The immunity to Delta with just 2 vaccines is approx 3 times as good as no vax. Another booster gives approx 11 times that of no vax.
            The virus is so efficient at replication that for the first 5 days the vaccinated person sheds virus at the same level as those who are unvaccinated. This obviously increases the rate of spread
            The more spread, the higher the risk for mutation. After 5 days this declines.
            The kid thing is about the dosing and the incidence of the cardiac inflammation.
            (Stunning fact- the incidence of serious reaction to smallpox vaccine was close to 1:800 yet people lined up...)
            There are concerns the decision has been announced without the usual discussion and transparency.
            The data coming out of Israel is compelling.

            Agree that the brain drain caused by the Orange Menace and the dismantling of Public health system is a major cause for most of this. They didn't only lose scientists, researchers and admins. They dismantled the data collection systems, blocked access to data and stopped collecting some of it. You can't just hit a reset button. We have States that are self destructive and blocking data collection, States that have reinvented the wheel and are doing their own thing. There is no cohesive system and after the debacle of the last few yrs it will take a lot to re-establish trust enough for the smart States to be brought back into the fold. The stupid States- the ones where data would be most important to collect, will be gaps in data. You can't cure stupid. Unfortunately they will have their hands out for Federal funding with the catastrophic result of underfunding and refusal to prevent.

            *this will of course not be socialism, the distribution from the wealthy, intelligently managed States to the stupidly run ones with no money left to run their healthcare systems is ....

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            • So, question, is shot #3 going to help reduce the transmission of the virus from a vaccinated person to someone else? I read somewhere that there is little difference in hospitalization rates between someone with two doses versus someone with three doses. If that’s the case, is the only thing the third shot is doing is preventing people from getting a mild or moderate (read: no hospitalization required) form of covid?

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              • Saint Cloud schools requiring masks for all
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                College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                Originally posted by SanTropez
                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Originally posted by psych View Post
                  So, question, is shot #3 going to help reduce the transmission of the virus from a vaccinated person to someone else? I read somewhere that there is little difference in hospitalization rates between someone with two doses versus someone with three doses. If that’s the case, is the only thing the third shot is doing is preventing people from getting a mild or moderate (read: no hospitalization required) form of covid?
                  Peter Hotez in an interview today said yes. The antibodies are found everywhere in your body not just the blood. So it helps stop the virus from replicating in areas like the nose. Which I found super interesting.

                  I think it was on Dan Abrams show for SiriusXM subscribers
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                  College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                  BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                  Originally posted by SanTropez
                  May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                  I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                  Originally posted by Kepler
                  When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                  He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                  • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                    Peter Hotez in an interview today said yes. The antibodies are found everywhere in your body not just the blood. So it helps stop the virus from replicating in areas like the nose. Which I found super interesting.

                    I think it was on Dan Abrams show for SiriusXM subscribers
                    Yeah that is my understanding. That over time the antibodies fade and you are then reliant on memory B and T cells which are slower to react. That was fine up until delta, but the viral load from delta is too great to wait for the memory cells to start an immune response. Having active antibodies from the getting the shot recently has you better prepared.

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                    • https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/JVI.00794-21

                      SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Induces Paracrine Senescence and Leukocyte Adhesion in Endothelial Cells


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                      • Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post

                        I assume the parents volunteer them.

                        Way back, my uncle was in the polio vaccine study when he was a child. He hated shots. My grandmother always told us she was hoping he got the real shot, because she didn’t want to tell him he needed another shot.

                        it turned out, he got the real shot.
                        Parents volunteering their children for vaccine trials is just interesting to me. I didn't know if there was a monetary incentive involved like some kind of trust for that kid down the line. Don't get me wrong, I will get my kids vaccinated when it's good to go but I don't think I would volunteer them for a vaccine trial.

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                        • Originally posted by J.D. View Post

                          Parents volunteering their children for vaccine trials is just interesting to me. I didn't know if there was a monetary incentive involved like some kind of trust for that kid down the line. Don't get me wrong, I will get my kids vaccinated when it's good to go but I don't think I would volunteer them for a vaccine trial.
                          But you'll gladly volunteer them to go to school with no mask.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • Originally posted by rufus View Post

                            But you'll gladly volunteer them to go to school with no mask.
                            You're a miserable douchebag.

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                            • Originally posted by J.D. View Post

                              You're a miserable douchebag.
                              But in the end, that is the grand experiment. Do you accept an experiment to prevent your child from getting sick, or do you take the chance of them getting sick? I'd wager that the Delta variant has changed how parents look at that balance equation.

                              Ignore the "attack" on you, and looking at the big picture- this is honestly a balance between risks, for all of us. So far, the adult data shows that the effectiveness is far better than w/o, assuming the hospital data is accurate. And noting the increase in younger people getting sick, it appears that the same balance will apply to kids.

                              Now if the 3rd dose reduces the ability to spread the virus, that's really good news. We have to remember the goal of the vaccine was to reduce the need for hospitalization and death. It was never going to be perfect, but considerably higher than w/o. If a 3rd then prevents others from getting infected by a person, that will help the doubters quite a bit- without them actually having to get a vaccine.

                              That being said- what would be better- the US getting a 3rd dose, or country X getting their first 2? I would suggest the latter.

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                              • Originally posted by J.D. View Post

                                You're a miserable douchebag.
                                Oooh, you showed me.

                                Tell me where I'm wrong.
                                What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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