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  • Holy ****

    https://twitter.com/sarahzhang/statu...203083780?s=21

    Yes distributing the COVID-19 vaccines in 2021 is complicated but have you considered how Spain got the smallpox vaccine across the Atlantic in 1803

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    Originally posted by SanTropez
    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
    Originally posted by Kepler
    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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    • Hahaha omg. One of the replies

      Do not, on any account, let this anywhere near the current UK government.
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      Originally posted by SanTropez
      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
      Originally posted by Kepler
      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Hahaha omg. One of the replies

        Do not, on any account, let this anywhere near the current UK government.
        Really, any UK government.

        They have a bad track record.
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        • So 4k dead per day is now the acceptable standard? Thanks, Obama.

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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

            I think it's mostly the latter. NY got destroyed because it was first. It would have happened to any major city that was first.

            Well, any in the US. Singapore has 29 deaths.
            Not to disagree with you on your main point, but I call absolute BS on Singapore's reported numbers.
            I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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            • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

              Not to disagree with you on your main point, but I call absolute BS on Singapore's reported numbers.
              I obviously can’t prove it, but I’m not so sure there’s fraudulent numbers there. They are a much healthier society with outstanding health care.

              migrant dormitory housing I think was a bunch of their spread so I wonder if those numbers got fudged

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              • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post

                I obviously can’t prove it, but I’m not so sure there’s fraudulent numbers there. They are a much healthier society with outstanding health care.

                migrant dormitory housing I think was a bunch of their spread so I wonder if those numbers got fudged
                That's what I'm talking about - healthcare shmealthcare. Population density determines spread, by and large. I just don't believe most country's numbers. Hell, I think even we are wildly under-testing and under-reporting.
                I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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                • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  Holy ****

                  https://twitter.com/sarahzhang/statu...203083780?s=21

                  Yes distributing the COVID-19 vaccines in 2021 is complicated but have you considered how Spain got the smallpox vaccine across the Atlantic in 1803

                  This doesn’t surprise me at all. Ends justified the means back then, and it’s not like they had cold storage or the ability to synthesize vaccines in a lab. Any port in a storm, as it were.
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                  • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

                    That's what I'm talking about - healthcare shmealthcare. Population density determines spread, by and large. I just don't believe most country's numbers. Hell, I think even we are wildly under-testing and under-reporting.
                    While it should, there are plenty of data to show that high density places can control it. Vs. largely open areas who can't. See the District of Columbia vs either Dakota state.

                    It's fair to question their data. But to just assume it's wrong because density is faulty.

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                    • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

                      That's what I'm talking about - healthcare shmealthcare. Population density determines spread, by and large. I just don't believe most country's numbers. Hell, I think even we are wildly under-testing and under-reporting.
                      Are you suggesting that Taiwan is hiding numbers too then? Because it’s not true that every high density place has the same issues.
                      in this country, for sure

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                      • Vietnam is another


                        it’s simpler than all of this. It’s a culture thing. Murcians tend to hate authority. A lot of Asian cultures don’t have that automatic aversion. A lot of deference to authority. Not as an absolute obviously.

                        Plus a lot of these countries already had a relatively high fraction of mask wearers. And draconian penalties for breaking quarantine. Like, things that would be arguably unconstitutional here.
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                        College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                        BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                        Originally posted by SanTropez
                        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                        Originally posted by Kepler
                        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                        • They also have way more experience dealing with stuff like this. First sign of an outbreak and they do what must be done. We just assume it is fake. They get out ahead of it and we cross our fingers and wait.
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                          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                            it’s simpler than all of this. It’s a culture thing. Murcians tend to hate authority.
                            Boy has Dump laid that old myth to rest.

                            Middle Muddling Muricans are just as much bovine desperate for a master as any other group. They just want that master to look and talk a certain way.

                            Americans' "anti-authoritarian strain" is about as sincere and effective as a Mentos commercial.
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                            • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              Vietnam is another


                              it’s simpler than all of this. It’s a culture thing. Murcians tend to hate authority. A lot of Asian cultures don’t have that automatic aversion. A lot of deference to authority. Not as an absolute obviously.

                              Plus a lot of these countries already had a relatively high fraction of mask wearers. And draconian penalties for breaking quarantine. Like, things that would be arguably unconstitutional here.
                              That’s a lot of it. Nothing is simple but these high density Asian cities have been able to do this well (outside of China in beginning).

                              i realize it looks funny but I know a great deal about their health systems (and that’s more than hospitals so saying system schmystem isn’t fair) and I would not assume false reporting on these numbers

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                              • I am not accusing anyone other than China and Russia (and Trump) of actively working to distort numbers, but I remain highly skeptical of any densely populated area with minimal impact. There are some excellent success stories - Australia, S. Korea, Taiwan, etc. And there are some catastrophic failures (the US).
                                I gotta little bit of smoke and a whole lotta wine...

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