Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Karl Anthony Towns not only lost his mom to covid but said he’s lost six family members total. Seems to say all died from covid.

I don’t care, at least people got to go to sturgis and live their lives

[Jeb2020]

It is probably time for a primer on testing as how we test is going to be changing soon, my prediction, in the next 90 days.

Currently most PCR tests have a CT (cycle threshold) of over 40 or even higher.

It is very well known that a positive PCR test with a CT over 35 is not detecting any infection. Even tests with a CT of 30 or higher are not detecting much if any infection.

No wonder sports leagues, NFL, ect. are contracting out and doing their own testing with a much lower CT.

2020 the year of TopNotch #Science

[Swansong]

Has anyone heard from geezer? He posted a few days back he was experiencing symptoms. I hope he’s OK.

It just constantly boggles my mind reading comments from idiots who keep saying this is nothing. Do they honestly not believe the numbers being reported?

I just got off a Zoom call with my brother and my dad to go over Christmas plans. My brother isn't coming up from SC because he refuses to get tested or be careful in any way, because "it's nonsense. No one here has it, I don't have it, and I refuse to waste time thinking about it."

There are millions of him.

[Swansong]

A note about the vaccine as well, from what I've been able to learn about it.

Pfizer, Moderna and Oxford have been researching coronavirus vaccines for a couple of decades (Moderna isn't that old, but they've been working on SARS1 since it appeared). Pfizer and Moderna have also been at the vanguard of mRNA vaccines. The concept is over 30 years old (Oxford's is a traditional vaccine, not mRNA). Yes, these vaccines are developed on a crazy fast time scale. But one of the ways they've compressed the timeline is allowing phase II and phase III trials to be run concurrently, speeding things up by months. Also, because of the visibility of the disease itself, they've had a lot more success signing up testers. One of the reasons phase III trials usually take an eternity is that it takes a long time to get sufficient test subjects, and to get a sufficiently wide demographic and sufficiently wide array of healthcare situations in the patients (how many asthmatics, how many obese, how many other co-morbitities). That hasn't been an issue here.

Each vaccine is going through the same test structure as any other. They're just doing it in a shorter timeline.

mRNA vaccine technology is a potential revolution in vaccines. The promise of them is amazing. Honestly - go read about the tech. It's super cool, without promising unicorns and perpetual sunshine.

Moderna has credited their SARS1 research on their speed on SARS2, since they're very very similarly structured as well.

[Jeb2020]

I just got off a Zoom call with my brother and my dad to go over Christmas plans. My brother isn't coming up from SC because he refuses to get tested or be careful in any way, because "it's nonsense. No one here has it, I don't have it, and I refuse to waste time thinking about it."

There are millions of him.

Wow your Bro isn't pretending to be sick when he is healthy. What a Knuckle Head.

[Jeb2020]

It is probably time for a primer on testing as how we test is going to be changing soon, my prediction, in the next 90 days.

Currently most PCR tests have a CT (cycle threshold) of over 40 or even higher.

It is very well known that a positive PCR test with a CT over 35 is not detecting any infection. Even tests with a CT of 30 or higher are not detecting much if any infection.

No wonder sports leagues, NFL, ect. are contracting out and doing their own testing with a much lower CT.

2020 the year of TopNotch #Science

Also, great question to address.

In past… diseases, did they ever define a case as one positive test without any clinical symptoms, without any clinical observation (doctor visit, ect.)?

A Case has always been determined by Clinical Observation of Symptoms + Test to confirm = Case.

In 2020 this all changed and a research tool, PCR test has been used as the sole method of determining a Case. #Science

This will change and a Case will revert back. Cases will plummet and CovidZombies will believe that all the measures that their HumanLords put in place that haven't worked to date, lock downs, closures, school closures, dirty masks, no visiting with healthy people, ect. all started magically working.

[aparch]

I certainly don't intend to be disingenuous. I don't think I'm a dupe or a political stooge. I think if you had to boil down my opinion regarding Covid to a single statement, which I have essentially argued throughout, it would be this: Short of a vaccine, I don't think we have nearly as much ability to control this disease as a lot of people here (and elsewhere) think we do.

That's all. It's just an opinion, but it's my opinion.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.

[aparch]

mRNA vaccine technology is a potential revolution in vaccines. The promise of them is amazing. Honestly - go read about the tech. It's super cool, without promising unicorns and perpetual sunshine.

I heard a bit about this on CNBC when they were discussing it (not as in depth as reading articles focused on it), and even the watered down description sounded revolutionary. They said it was super easy to now tweak the vaccine if they needed to adjust for mutations or variations. Amazing how far technology has come.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Popehat/s...51286183165955

[jerphisch]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Popehat/s...51286183165955

The important part is in the replies...
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCPhilad...48570665013250

[leswp1]

The important part is in the replies...
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCPhilad...48570665013250

Ha! WHen they came out with Viagra they did studies and required the subjects have no HTN and the Diabetes was under control. THey told people who didn't fit that metric they could reapply if they could meet the metric. Magic! Most of the guys that met dealt with stuff to meet the metric had improvement without med. I can tell you anecdotally that threatening the peepee function is a wonderful motivator- works better than anything else.

And it does make sense physiologically. (Is this the part where we say Darwin wins? It may cut down on the number of stupids capable of reproducing.... ) ((technically they don't need it to function to reproduce but it is a lot harder - bwahahaha))

[Kepler]

We're number 1.

[WisconsinWildcard]

Excuse a stupid question, but does it kill it if it's in you, prevent you from getting it, or mitigate the effects if you get it?

Mostly 2, maybe 3. Not 1

[aparch]

Huh. Contrary to the "evidence" our resident denier likes to throw around... hospitals are farking reaching capacity.

[Handyman]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1335359068316299267

7 Washington state nursing home residents with Covid-19 died after staff members attended a 300-person wedding that violated the governor's coronavirus restrictions.