Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Jeb2020]

I'm for it once I'm assured it's safe (and yes, I will not trust any vaccine that comes out before November 3rd). Personal freedom takes a back seat to public welfare in terms of communicable diseases. Get your farking MMR and DPT vaccines, get your annual flu shot, etc.

The greatest public health accomplishment in the history of the world was the eradication of small pox.

A vaccine for a seasonal Corona Virus, lmao. Especially for healthy people, more lmao.

Potential antigenic cross-reactivity between SARS-CoV-2 and human tissue with a possible link to an increase in autoimmune diseases

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...21661620304253

[Chuck Murray]

Watch this two-minute video to understand how the bed-wetters in government and media are needlessly scaring the hell out of people. The ginned-up hysteria ain't about saving lives, folks. It's about them grabbing power.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1293576086413103109 2 minute versioin

https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/statu...76086413103109 Full version

Fantastic links, Jeb2020. Surprised that Big Tech hasn't pulled then down (yet) ...

[rufus]

You two need a room?

[Jeb2020]

Fantastic links, Jeb2020. Surprised that Big Tech hasn't pulled then down (yet) ...

It is amazing isn't it. Team #WetTheBed will see something like this as conversational and can't be discussed. It is very telling.

[Jimjamesak]

You two need a room?

[net presence]

1820...are you really THIS dense? Regarding your point/question about the percentage of "football" players that have tested positive for Covid and developed myocarditis; first, there is nothing in any of the articles that specifically states they were testing any other athletes besides those at THE Ohio State. In the NYT article from August, they use the word "athletes" to describe who was tested. But, Dr Daniels has never specified whether it was all/any Ohio St athletes or, just football players. Now, unlike you or Chuck, I will acknowledge that my initial response is now being countered by the Ohio St. doctor. He is now saying that his initial remarks to the New York Times reporter were taken out of context. And, that the findings aren't a reason to prevent athletics from paying. Although, it was fairly obvious he was couching his response as he also framed it as we now know what to look for and how to diagnose it. Meaning, probably every single athlete from every single sport that tests positive will have to have a cardiac MRI before being cleared to return to play. That's a heck of a lot of money...

Next, in regards to your statement that there are only three athletes who have either died from or, are still in treatment for myocarditis and THAT'S how you chose to develop your percentage of risk/safety regarding myocarditis; this goes back to the previous paragraph. If Dr. Daniels only tested OHIO St. athletes, then your percentages are garbage. They actually tested a total of 22 athletes who had tested positive for Covid, and four had mycarditis. That's 18% of them. However, since we don't know the exact prevalence of infection, it's difficult to know what the degree of potential myocarditis is. Still, according to the John's Hopkins site, we 6,751,119 infected. We also know that the number of likely infected is closer to 10-15% of the population. Let's go with just 10%...

So, using your number of just football players -- 3,315 players -- times 10%, gives us a total of 331 players. Now, multiply that by 15% and we have 50 football player -- JUST football players -- that will likely have developed myocarditis. The NCAA says they had a total of over 460,000 total athletes at all levels of competition last year At 10% that's 46,000 athletes that have already contracted Covid. Times that by 18% and we now have the possibility of 8,280 athletes with myocarditis.... and that's acceptable to you and Chuck?!?! I actually would like you to answer that...

Finally, in regards to your rant on testing; yes, we are testing more than any other country. Do you you know what the real experts -- not experts like you and Chuck -- but, real infectious disease specialists like Fauci and Olsterholm say we should be doing on a daily basis? From a New York Times article on Aug. 18...

"The Harvard Global Health Institute has suggested the country needs at least 1 million tests per day to slow the spread of the virus, and as many as 4 million per day to get ahead of the virus and stop new cases." Four million tests a day to get ahead of the virus...Meaning, even 900,000 tests aren't nearly enough. Here's the link to the article, although I'm sure neither you or Chuck will read it...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/u...-decrease.html

The CDC says during the week of Sept. 6-12, there was a total of 1,831,880 labratory tests. Not sure why the "our world in data" site is so different. Unless there are 650,000 non-laboratory tests each week. Divide 1,831,880 by 7 days and my calculator says that's an average of only 261,697 PER DAY... Either way, I don't know about you and Chuck but, that's nowhere near 4 million tests per day. Hell, if the CDC site is accurate, that's nowhere near 1 million tests per day. Again, this is what actual experts are saying we should do per day. Meaning, your uneducated opinion means diddly squat...

[Handyman]

[leswp1]

Anyone heard from DGF? Worrying.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Anyone heard from DGF? Worrying.

I’m here. Feeling a bit odd but overall ok

[leswp1]

I’m here. Feeling a bit odd but overall ok

Sad you are feeling odd but glad overall OK. Had someone go radio silent from this and it wasn't good. I get a bit jumpy (presumptuous of me)

[Jeb2020]

"The Harvard Global Health Institute has suggested the country needs at least 1 million tests per day to slow the spread of the virus, and as many as 4 million per day to get ahead of the virus and stop new cases." Four million tests a day to get ahead of the virus...Meaning, even 900,000 tests aren't nearly enough. Here's the link to the article, although I'm sure neither you or Chuck will read it...

4 million tests per day! The only person who would advocate for such stupidity is someone who wants to be told to lockdown, shelter in place, live in a padded room, that it is ok to wet themselves, ect.

Grow Up Peter Pan.



It is over Not Present. Get over it and move on.

[rufus]

Not sure if anyone linked to this yet.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-covid-19-fate

Kushner, seated at the head of the conference table, in a chair taller than all the others, was quick to strike a confrontational tone. “The federal government is not going to lead this response,” he announced. “It’s up to the states to figure out what they want to do.”

One attendee explained to Kushner that due to the finite supply of PPE, Americans were bidding against each other and driving prices up. To solve that, businesses eager to help were looking to the federal government for leadership and direction.

“Free markets will solve this,” Kushner said dismissively. “That is not the role of government.”

The same attendee explained that although he believed in open markets, he feared that the system was breaking. As evidence, he pointed to a CNN report about New York governor Andrew Cuomo and his desperate call for supplies.

“That’s the CNN bull****,” Kushner snapped. “They lie.”

According to another attendee, Kushner then began to rail against the governor: “Cuomo didn’t pound the phones hard enough to get PPE for his state…. His people are going to suffer and that’s their problem.”

“That’s when I was like, We’re screwed,” the shocked attendee told Vanity Fair.

The group argued for invoking the Defense Production Act. “We were all saying, ‘Mr. Kushner, if you want to fix this problem for PPE and ventilators, there’s a path to do it, but you have to make a policy change,’” one person who attended the meeting recounted.

In response Kushner got “very aggressive,” the attendee recalled. “He kept invoking the markets” and told the group they “only understood how entrepreneurship works, but didn’t understand how government worked.”

[Kepler]

This is the natural consequences of allowing these morons into power. The people who voted for them are responsible and hopefully will suffer the most.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Minnesota just set single day record for new cases- over 1300.

open it all back up!!!

[First Time, Long Time]

Minnesota just set single day record for new cases- over 1300.

open it all back up!!!

But those aren't cases... they are "cases" remember?