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Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View PostPart of me wishes we could prosecute these people.
Are you ready to face an accuser?
Or do you just want to prosecute “those people?”Last edited by Jeb2020; 09-16-2020, 08:18 PM.
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If enough non-partisan doctors and scientists support a vaccine I will support I dont care who politically is behind it. If it is just Trump/cronies and the CDC not a friggin chance in hell. There needs to be independent confirmation with lots of scholarly articles that have been heavily reviewed and vetted before I will trust any vaccine that comes out that fast.
And to be honest if on Jan 21st Joe Biden and his people announced a vaccine I would highly doubt its legitimacy.
I am of two minds of forced vaccinations but if it comes to schools and other jobs or situations where you will be around large groups of people there should be rules that force those companies or whatever to have their employees either vaccinated or masked until they vaccine up. It does kind of give me the heebee geebees though about the idea of forced vaccinations but the needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the one."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
Tired and lots of parathesis still.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostIf enough non-partisan doctors and scientists support a vaccine I will support I dont care who politically is behind it. If it is just Trump/cronies and the CDC not a friggin chance in hell. There needs to be independent confirmation with lots of scholarly articles that have been heavily reviewed and vetted before I will trust any vaccine that comes out that fast.
And to be honest if on Jan 21st Joe Biden and his people announced a vaccine I would highly doubt its legitimacy.
Assuming sanity is restored I don't know how long it will take to scrape all the garbage out of the federal agencies. The politicals will be gone on day 1 of course, but over the last 4 years a lot of idiot careers have been promoted because they went along with the Nazi regime. Those are time bombs that have to be neutralized (you cannot fire them but you can designate them for alligator tracking duty in North Dakota).Cornell University
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Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
I meant paresthesia but I’m sure you knew that
It's my brand.Cornell University
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I hate no multi quote.
First DGF- Thinking of you and sending lots of positive vibes (and prayers, even if it isn't PC). Hang in the best you can.
Second- Reading the posts about holding people accountable- The example I use is a guy visits a prostitute who has an STD (Hep B). She doesn't know or care if she has something. She doesn't require he wear a condom- she has unprotected sex with every one of her clients. He get some crud and gives it to his partner. and others in the house because it spreads by surface contact too. Is she responsible? Is he? How about both. She is doing something that will probably ensure she catches something. He is doing something that he should know is risky. The people in the house are sick because they both did something they knew could put others at risk. Do they get a pass because...? Not sure about legal answer but morally they are responsible.
Originally posted by Handyman View PostIf enough non-partisan doctors and scientists support a vaccine I will support I dont care who politically is behind it. If it is just Trump/cronies and the CDC not a friggin chance in hell. There needs to be independent confirmation with lots of scholarly articles that have been heavily reviewed and vetted before I will trust any vaccine that comes out that fast.
And to be honest if on Jan 21st Joe Biden and his people announced a vaccine I would highly doubt its legitimacy.
I am of two minds of forced vaccinations but if it comes to schools and other jobs or situations where you will be around large groups of people there should be rules that force those companies or whatever to have their employees either vaccinated or masked until they vaccine up. It does kind of give me the heebee geebees though about the idea of forced vaccinations but the needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the one.
Having dealt with some of the diseases that have vaccines I have pretty strong feelings about people who don't want them. We make vaccines because the disease debilitates, kills or maims. Anyone has the right to not vaccinate. I will not argue that for a minute. It is their body... but.... They do not have the right to be a glorified vector, circulate in society, putting others at risk, for any reason. Personal right extends only until it impinges on the rights of others.
There is no way to tell if someone is carrying contagion. You can test every day but that will still not ensure they are not contagious because of the prodrome/presymptomatic period where they shed disease and are unaware. Most vaccines are not 100%. If there is a large dose or continuous exposure it may still override the immune system and get the person sick. Herd immunity decreases the chance of spread because you have less chance of the large dose or exposure. Ex- flu vaccine is 70% effective. If everyone is vaccinated there is less disease and spread.
Public health history has many examples of quarantining before treatment availability Typhoid Mary, people with leprosy, measles, rubella, smallpox, TB were sequestered, plague ships not being able to dock. Breaking that had dire consequences because folks knew the result was death. My favorite was the story of Venice which managed to stay plague free while other places were ravaged because they had amazingly strict restrictions. When they finally failed it was because someone broke the rules to satisfy as official's need for profit- killed a ton of people. Hmmm
Now we have ways to vaccinate or treat there is no excuse for knowingly putting others at risk. If the person chooses not to then they should be the ones who have their activity contained, not the rest of society. Otherwise they hold the rest of the people hostage by their free movement
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostNever underestimate the capacity of human beings to lock up and otherwise take away the freedom of other human beings who are deemed a threat.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
What will be your position on forced vaccinations for Covid, something that I'm almost certain we will see, if not everywhere, then in certain locations, or more likely, employers? Will it matter who has endorsed the vaccine?
Cheer up, you've had years to stack the courts, so the idiots may still win.Cornell University
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My assumption is that I will have to get the vax in order to travel for work again. If the firm doesn't require it, our clients might as part of the contract before we come on-site.
But I also think so much of what we do can be done remotely, that I question when I will be asked to travel again. Certainly not until Jan 1 at the absolute earliest.
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@MichaelSteele
: "I'm exhausted... the fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb *** from getting sick? I'm sorry. To me it is beyond the imagination.""It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
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Originally posted by Handyman View Posthttps://mobile.***********/11thHour/...38507838218247
Steele has zero good things to say about Trump or his supporters...Cornell University
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