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  • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

    I'm not claiming there is zero effect. However, one of the things that I think you are seeing is that the high risk groups are doing a much better job of protecting themselves (or being protected, if in a congregate care setting) than early on in the pandemic. I think that's part of the reason why in April we saw 35,000 cases per day, with deaths between 2500 and 3000, whereas now we see twice as many daily cases but half as many daily deaths.
    Yes, cause they have no other choice, because no one else is gonna protect them. Not you, not the government, not our health and disease specialists, no one. People in this country are dying, 1000/day, the disease is spreading rampant, with no one doing anything to stop it. It should not have to be every man for himself out there, it doesn't have to be the Hunger Games.

    Cause a bunch of incredibly stupid people elected a child to be president. "What could it hurt, he can't do worse than the rest of them".
    Last edited by rufus; 08-04-2020, 07:00 PM.
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    • MN high school sports making some changes.
      Football and Volleyball moving to spring.

      https://www.mprnews.org/amp/story/20...mpression=true

      Damn cautious behavior...
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      • Originally posted by rufus View Post

        Yes, cause that's their time, you sociopathic ****. Their body has given out.

        This Covid thing is taking people before that time would otherwise have happened. Most of these deaths were preventable, and the people dying from it could have lived another 15, 20, 40 more years. In some cases, 70 or more years.

        What don't you understand about that, you ****ing ghoul?
        The average age of a “Covid death” is older than the the average age life expectancy. You know, what you call “cause that’s their time.”

        Now back to a “Covid Death”

        For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

        https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm


        on average there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

        People like you Rufus are exactly what the problem is. You are so dense you can’t even see it.

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        • I think it was Hovey who was wondering out loud last week what would transpire at Sturgis this year (week away?). The event is on. City officials apparently concluded that people would come anyway so they decided not to cancel it but to try to manage it. There's no masking requirement in SoDak, so there is no masking mandate for visitors, though it looks like vendors will be required to mask. Expected numbers are down from 600,000+ to around 250,000. Petri Dish, South Dakota.

          Pardon me for not linking. Idiot and my parents knew it early on.
          Last edited by burd; 08-05-2020, 09:56 AM.

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            • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

              I do remember my friend asking me that, but I don't remember my specific post about it. I assume you or rufus have it saved somewhere and are ready to trot it out at a moments notice.

              What was my number? I don't think it was the 20,000 figure because I think that was my guess on the deaths.

              I have just always thought that the media, and a lot of people here, lose track of scale.

              What if CNN each night started with, "OMG, 8000 people died in the US again today. What is that, 12,000 days in a row?"

              I think I remember reading somewhere that something like 60 million people die each year in the world. My response was something like, "***, 60 million people?!?!" It's an incomprehensible number.

              1800 people died of heart disease in the US yesterday. And the day before. And the day before that, and so on.

              Yeah, it's all tragic when people die. It sucks when it's a loved one or a friend. But a little perspective is useful, too. I don't suggest that we all go cower in Trump's bunker because death is stalking us.
              Nah, I don’t have it. I called you out once, and provided evidence. It changed nothing, and that’s okay. It’s a message board. Since you explicitly call out Democrats on here as hypocritical, I figured you’d change your tone on the coronavirus, since you clearly underestimated it early on. But, you haven’t. Alas, you’re a hypocrite, just like the rest of us.
              http://i.bittwiddlers.org/b/Lli

              Anyways, Governor Beshear was on CNN again this morning. He makes me proud to be a Kentuckian. He’s done an excellent job, and he’s deft at dodging questions about Trump’s incompetence, since challenging Trump in a +30 Trump state is political suicide. He hugs the administration whenever he can, and credits them for ideas to keep the viral spread manageable.

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              • Originally posted by alfablue

                For pretty much every single way people die, there's a TON of research and prevention that goes on.

                Thanks to lung cancer deaths, there are some pretty draconian tobacco laws and taxes. Thanks to car crashes, there are massive amounts of laws and regulations making cars safer. Thanks to other sicknesses, there are laws regulating air and water quality.

                You pretend that deaths just happen and that we do nothing about them, when, in fact, there TONS of things going on to reduce those kinds of deaths. We have tons of work and laws around cancer, we have laws making it illegal to shoot another person... Some countries have even banned guns. We even have laws that prevent just INJURY- have you seen the OSHA rules that make your workplace safer??? We have laws that make electronics safer- and they are even rated. Not just for electrocution, but for radiation, too. How many people get electrocuted every year? Thanks to GFI outlets, that handful of people are now close to none.

                The only death that we have no answer for is old age.

                I can go on, but the idea that we don't care is very much not true. And that there's more than enough laws and regulations to save lives to justify some temporary ones for COVID-19. We spend trillions of dollars to keep people safe and alive.
                Ok, let me try this with something at least remotely similar to Covid.

                I think everyone agrees that what, maybe 60,000 people die of the flu each year in this country alone. To combat this, we recommend flu shots, certainly for people of a certain age. We recommend covering your mouth when you sneeze, washing hands, etc...

                60,000 deaths are a lot of people, just standing alone, right? Aren't those deaths tragic in their own right? Don't those deaths disproportionately hit at risk categories, like the aged.

                Do we lock up nursing homes in response? Do we deny the elderly the chance to see their families? Do we lock up businesses and demand that everyone stay at home during flu season?

                As someone pointed out, Covid gets into nursing homes by someone bringing it in. Isn't it the same with the flu? Might it not be an employee out at the bars trying to get laid? Shouldn't we lock down the bars and restaurants to prevent those tragic deaths?

                We don't because as a society we've made the decision it isn't worth the cost. It's not that we want people to die of the flu. But we can't just shut down the country for 6 months a year and make everyone stay at home so that no one gets it.
                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                • Originally posted by psych View Post

                  Nah, I don’t have it. I called you out once, and provided evidence. It changed nothing, and that’s okay. It’s a message board. Since you explicitly call out Democrats on here as hypocritical, I figured you’d change your tone on the coronavirus, since you clearly underestimated it early on. But, you haven’t. Alas, you’re a hypocrite, just like the rest of us.
                  http://i.bittwiddlers.org/b/Lli

                  Anyways, Governor Beshear was on CNN again this morning. He makes me proud to be a Kentuckian. He’s done an excellent job, and he’s deft at dodging questions about Trump’s incompetence, since challenging Trump in a +30 Trump state is political suicide. He hugs the administration whenever he can, and credits them for ideas to keep the viral spread manageable.
                  How exactly did you "call me out," or am I a hypocrite?

                  Back in March someone asked me to guess how many deaths and I said 20,000. I've never denied that. If making a wrong guess or prediction about Covid back in March of this year makes one a hypocrite, well then I guess I'm a hypocrite, with a lot of company. Seems like an odd definition though.
                  That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                  • What month exactly will it go away? Jared said by July

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                    • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                      How exactly did you "call me out," or am I a hypocrite?

                      Back in March someone asked me to guess how many deaths and I said 20,000. I've never denied that. If making a wrong guess or prediction about Covid back in March of this year makes one a hypocrite, well then I guess I'm a hypocrite, with a lot of company. Seems like an odd definition though.
                      You claimed you didn’t say something. I showed you did. Right after I did it, I realized what a waste of time it was. I mean, like I said about Trump moving the Election Day, who cares?
                      You’re a hypocrite because you don’t admit when you’re wrong about something, yet you explicitly call people out on here for doing the same. It’s whatever man. I mean, that all said, I still appreciate a lot of your posts. I actually find myself agreeing with some of them, something I didn’t think I’d say. You’ll continue to post, I’ll continue to post, and life will go on.

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                      • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                        Ok, let me try this with something at least remotely similar to Covid.

                        I think everyone agrees that what, maybe 60,000 people die of the flu each year in this country alone. To combat this, we recommend flu shots, certainly for people of a certain age. We recommend covering your mouth when you sneeze, washing hands, etc...

                        60,000 deaths are a lot of people, just standing alone, right? Aren't those deaths tragic in their own right? Don't those deaths disproportionately hit at risk categories, like the aged.

                        Do we lock up nursing homes in response? Do we deny the elderly the chance to see their families? Do we lock up businesses and demand that everyone stay at home during flu season?

                        As someone pointed out, Covid gets into nursing homes by someone bringing it in. Isn't it the same with the flu? Might it not be an employee out at the bars trying to get laid? Shouldn't we lock down the bars and restaurants to prevent those tragic deaths?

                        We don't because as a society we've made the decision it isn't worth the cost. It's not that we want people to die of the flu. But we can't just shut down the country for 6 months a year and make everyone stay at home so that no one gets it.
                        And maybe in the future we can do that with this disease as well. Right now we cant because we don't know as much about it as we do the flu. Every time we pretend we do know something we find out something that completely contradicts what we thought we knew. Remember when the summer was supposed to be slower? That is why shutting down (which we never really did anyways) is the right decision. That is why the nations that did that have a much better grasp on the disease than we do. I mean you can't deny that at this point can you? Why are we so different from them? (outside of our off the charts selfishness and greed) We have seen a road map to how to manage this but we just ignore it because we think we are better. Well many of them have it licked and we havent even ended our first wave yet.

                        You keep conflating things that seem to be the same but ignoring the differences. I dont think you are doing it out of dishonesty but it is still there. It is the same game the deniers were playing early on where the compared the end results of other diseases to the beginning results of COVID. We arent in a position yet to have a more laissez faire attitude with this disease.
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                        • In a year, Ghoul Hovey. And as you at least mentioned, we do make efforts to keep that number low.

                          We've had two and a half times that number in five months.

                          And you don't believe anyone has any responsibility in trying to mitigate those numbers.

                          Sociopathic ****.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • Snitches gonna start getting stitches from Virginia GOP

                            https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-reported-mask

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                            • In all candor I would have a lot of trepidation getting a vaccine approved by this administration. The combination of ineptitude and political horror exceeds my tolerance levels.

                              Obviously once the adults are back in charge, and have done real science, I would have no issues.
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                              • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                                Snitches gonna start getting stitches from Virginia GOP

                                https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-reported-mask
                                Hopefully, every Republican in this country gets COVID.
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