Gomehrt blames wearing a mask for contracting covid.
im not even kidding
He also statements of him not wearing one yesterday are false, forgetting this things called "videotape" exists.
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RoverFrenchy, Classic! Great post. iwh30I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man gregg729I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence." Ritt18you are the perfect representation of your alma mater. Miss ThundercatThat's it, you win. TBA#2I want to kill you and dance in your blood. DisplacedCornellianHahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.
RoverFrenchy, Classic! Great post. iwh30I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man gregg729I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence." Ritt18you are the perfect representation of your alma mater. Miss ThundercatThat's it, you win. TBA#2I want to kill you and dance in your blood. DisplacedCornellianHahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.
MHSAA (Michigan high school sports) basically kicks the can again until the 20th of August. Golf, tennis, cross country, swimming can start as usual. Football, soccer, volleyball can practice with no pads, but no scrimmages.
"I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites
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Gomehrt blames wearing a mask for contracting covid.
im not even kidding
Me every time he talks:
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
He also statements of him not wearing one yesterday are false, forgetting this things called "videotape" exists.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
Well no kidding a PCR test detecting viral RNA doesn’t detect an active infection. But let’s keep testing healthy people, can’t get enough of them “cases.” And lets keep calling a positive test, testing positive for Covid19
Quick Team#WetTheBed assemble!
Mission, to make the study political. Call everyone a bot and a racist conspiracy theorist.
“”2/2 Conclusion: "Although SARS-CoV-2 RNA shedding in respiratory and stool can be prolonged, duration of viable virus is relatively short-lived. Thus, detection of viral RNA cannot be used to infer infectiousness"“
Jeb...in reference to your comment above regarding the myth that hospitals are gaining some undeserved financial windfall from claiming Covid deaths -- insinuating of course that they are counting non-Covid deaths as Covid in order to fleece the taxpayer. You're probably a bot so you probably won't read it but, hears a link from a "Fact Check" article on this myth.
In an interview with FactCheck.org, however, Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons.
You might want to go right to CDC material and learn how case counting and death reporting is done. There is more info than what I posted. Please feel free to let me know what is inaccurate.
Why Did the CDC Decide to Create Unique Reporting Rules for COVID-19 When Successful Reporting Rules Already Existed?
A double standard exists for how COVID-19 data is collected and reported versus all other infectious diseases and causes of death. Let’s examine three essential data categories; Fatalities, Cases & Hospitalizations for all infectious diseases because there are significant flaws in what constitutes a COVID-19 case, hospitalization and fatality.
On March 24th, the CDC decided to ignore universal data collection and reporting guidelines for fatalities in favor of adopting new guidelines unique to COVID-19. The guidelines the CDC decided against using have been used successfully since 2003.
After all, based upon the July 11thdata from the CDC’s Provisional COVID-19 Death Counts by Sex, Age & State webpage, if COVID-19 is an epidemic (122,374 Fatalities), then shouldn’t pneumonia (131,372 Fatalities) also be an epidemic?1
Fatality Data
It is important to note that COVID-19 data is collected and reported by a much different standard than all other infectious diseases and causes of death data. This unique standard for COVID-19 was used, despite the existence of guidelines that have been successfully used since 2003 for data collection across all infective, comorbid, and injurious situations.
This begs the question, if the CDC already has well established guidelines for reporting fatalities then why make up new guidelines for COVID-19?
COVID-19 data is collected and reported based upon the March 24th National Vital Statistics Systems (NVSS) Guidelines and the April 14th CDC adoption of a position paper authored by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE). 8,9
However, the data for all other causes of death is based upon the 2003 CDC’s Medical Examiners’ & Coroners’ Handbook on Death Registration and Fetal Death Reporting and the CDC’s Physicians’ Handbook on Medical Certification of Death. 10,11
On March 24th, the NVSS, under the direction of the CDC and National Institute of Health (NIH), instructed physicians, medical examiners, and coroners that COVID-19 would:
be recorded as the underlying cause of death “more often than not;”
be recorded as the cause of death listed in Part I of the death certificate even in assumed cases;
be recorded as the primary cause of death even if the decedent had other chronic comorbidities. All comorbidities for COVID-19 would be listed now in Part II, rather than in Part I as they had been since 2003 for all other causes of death.
March 24th, 2020 – NVSS COVID-19 Alert No. 2
“Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not.”
“Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.
No, conservatives are idiots. We have been consistent saying close up shop, stay home, wear a mask and practice good hygiene if you must interact at all.
The right is now populated by the kids who ate paste in first grade. That's the problem. As they self segregate further their death rate will climb while ours sinks. The problem will take care of itself as soon as we remove them from power and never let them back.
What is the goal now? First it was hospital capacity what is it now?
Your lack of and ability to think doesn’t mean conspiracy for those that do.
You will have to be more specific on the conspiracies. So much of what I posts are stats right from the good ole CDC.
If it is a shutdown tactic throw in racist, for good measure cover all your basis at once.[/
Jeb, I answered your first question in my post last night but, funny, even when you did respond you never actually addressed any of my specific points with any specific evidence or counter points, especially in regards to my explanation on how we could actually stay in shelter-in-place mode - I refuse to use your term (lockdown) any longer as it's simply not accurate -- for as long as we need to, even until we have a vaccine. But obviously, you don't have a legitimate response so, you simply don't acknowledge it was ever said. How typical of you...
Also, you are correct that being as healthy as possible is important in potentially minimizing the impact of getting Covid. However, I am friends with an airline pilot who is 51 years old and was in incredible physical shape before being infected with Covid. Within 48 hours of feeling his initial symptoms -- a cough -- after returning from a swing, he ended up on the floor of his bathroom at 2am and, although he remembers none of this, his wife taking him to the ER where he was immediately placed in ICU. A specialist came and literally sat in his room from 3am until noon that day to ensure everything possible was being done. He was in ICU for 11 days and didn't leave the hospital for another 7 days after that. Prior to getting sick, he was one of those people who thought that, although Covid was real, it's real severity was being significantly overplayed by the MSM. As you can probably imagine, his opinion has changed dramatically. To the point he is now very active on Facebook imploring people to wear masks, socially distance, and avoid gatherings if at all possible.
Finally, in many of your previous posts -- especially a few weeks back -- you were very focused on arguing that the overall death rate was dropping and that the vast majority of people infected would even notice it. Well take a look at this little tidbit:
"Skeptics of the disease and the necessity of shutting down the economy to stop its spread have focused on the fact that most coronavirus cases have been mild or even asymptomatic, mistakenly comparing COVID-19 to "just the flu." But a recent study of 100 recovered coronavirus patients reveals 78 of them now have lasting cardiovascular damage even though a vast majority of them had mild cases of COVID-19 in the first place."
But hey, there's no reason to drastically prevent unnecessary spread. In fact, we're probably better off "just getting it and getting to herd immunity quicker"..
Yeah...that's a great f-ing idea Jeb.... Quite frankly, and as much as I hate to say this, this is another nail in the coffin of having kids back in school or, allowing any type of athletics to continue until we have a vaccine.
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