Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[state of hockey]

The 5G is working great, even though I don't have a 5G-enabled phone! ;-)

Seriously, nothing more than the usual. A slightly sore upper arm, perhaps a bit more sore than my Pfizer jabs back in April, but that's it.

Got mine yesterday as well. I've had Moderna for all three. This one feels more like a normal flu shot than the first two. Sore shoulder and that's it. The first two I was in a fog for about 12 hours, starting about six hours after getting them.

[psych]

Second confirmed omicron case in Minnesota.

[Swansong]

Second confirmed omicron case in Minnesota.

Like anything else this infectious, by the time normies like us know about it, it's everywhere.



We don't know how it will compete with Delta yet. We don't know if it will out-compete it, or if it will lose like Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Lambda and Mu did. We also don't know if it's more, less or the same severity (there were the initial stories that it was less sever, however the doctor in SA who said that immediately pointed out that whe was wildly misquoted). All of this info will trickle out to us, but we should be careful what we believe for now.


My hospital system just sent out a communication to all staff, basically saying "yeah, no one knows **** about it. Mask up, get a booster and be careful."

[ericredaxe]

Gee - so not only are you less likely to contract COVID if you are vaccinated, but if you do catch it, you are less likely to give it to someone else. Who would have ever imagined that?

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...p_featurestack

[ScoobyDoo]

Gee - so not only are you less likely to contract COVID if you are vaccinated, but if you do catch it, you are less likely to give it to someone else. Who would have ever imagined that?

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...p_featurestack

That should be the end of any discussion. Right there.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah so far no evidence it’s competing with delta yet. One state sequenced every positive test from last six weeks and found zero cases of omicron

[Jeb2020]

Gee - so not only are you less likely to contract COVID if you are vaccinated, but if you do catch it, you are less likely to give it to someone else. Who would have ever imagined that?

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...p_featurestack

Cool now do people that have recovered from Covid. Which was the topic in question yesterday.

Also, right from the study.

“We also found no meaningful difference in the mean peak viral load or proliferation duration between vaccinated and unvaccinated participants (Figure 1D and 1E, Table S2, and Fig. S2).”


Wasnt your reasoning because unvaccinated Covid recovered people could have an asymptomatic infection and the viral load would be higher than a vaccinated person, viral spread, community, ect.

Talk about making a bunch of bullsh*t up to for your new religion. Covidian.

[Jeb2020]

Second confirmed omicron case in Minnesota.

1 of the MN Omicron patients was fully vaxxed AND boosted.

Needs another booster and for sure the double dose booster when available.

[Scarlet]

There's this doctor I follow on Facebook who works at Mass General - her weekly posts have literally kept me sane since this all started. She just posted this on the Minnesota guy who has the Omicorn variant:

The Minnesota guy who now has been found to have the Omicron variant went to an anime convention in NYC where they played fast and loose with the science.
The said they required "proof of vaccination" to attend, but in fact they only required one shot (which doesn't give nearly the protection of two shots) and even more unbelievably they let you walk in if you got a shot at the door (which would give you no protection at all).
This poor guy got sick the day after he was at the convention so he was contagious the last day he attended. Hopefully they'll be able to call all the people who got the shot at the door or walked in with only one vaccine and see if any of them also got sick.
Omicron was going to come here sooner or later. We get to choose how it spreads with our behavior. Maybe we can learn from this convention.
You just can't play games with science like this. Facts is facts. You can't negotiate with a virus. Biology wins.

It's the Biogen conference all over again.

[ScoobyDoo]

Great meme I saw today. Since I can't get images to work I will quote it.

"Santa has been reading your posts all year. Most of you are getting Science books."

[dxmnkd316]

Yeah so far no evidence it’s competing with delta yet. One state sequenced every positive test from last six weeks and found zero cases of omicron

Whoa, what state is sequencing everything?

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Whoa, what state is sequencing everything?

Not sure- slavitt put out a data dump on Twitter on states he was working with but he didn’t name it

[dxmnkd316]

Not sure- slavitt put out a data dump on Twitter on states he was working with but he didn’t name it

Looking at the data here (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ov-2-sequences) now. should be pretty obvious. You can find every case by clicking on a bar and then clicking the table button.

[dxmnkd316]

Jeebus, it might have been Florida

Edit: Nope. According to the CDC, no one has hit 100% for either of the two weeks ending 11/13 or 11/20 unless it was just done this week.
I'm wondering if they didn't look at the PCR results they had on hand to see the "second peak" or whatever it is that comes up on the PCR test that Delta doesn't have but Omicron does. Either way, I question his comment.

[dxmnkd316]

Good (well, at least informative) thread on Omicron.

https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/stat...500653568?s=20

Some key bullets:
If this is a more infectious variant only (no immune escape), the R0 would be impossibly high.
If it was slightly less infectious, it would need to be total immune escape (unlikely).
Most likely, 30% more contagious than Delta and 5x more immune escape.

Summed up:

Roughly speaking, I think that could correspond to people just having received a booster being only still being as well protected as if they received their last dose 6 months ago. Getting a booster asap will become all the more important!

There are a lot of nuances though. THe data from South Africa is difficult to interpret since only about 25% of people are vaccinated but it's also likely that nearly everyone in SA was exposed.

This graph scared the hell out of me. It's the effective R number. If Re>1, it's spreading. If Re<1, it's not. NOrmally we sound the alarms at Re at like 1.4. Minnesota hasn't been above 1.4 since April 2020. This is SA as a whole and it's nearing 2.9. That's insanely high.

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In the Gauteng Province, it's nearly 3.5.

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This isn't ideal either:



Edit:
Oh boy. This is the uppercut coming for trumpers it didn't kill. SOunds like the data for previous infections (even those with MULTIPLE prior infections and delta) it has a decent amount of immune evasion. More than Delta.
https://twitter.com/SACEMAdirector/s...673159685?s=20