Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[aparch]

Six cases of blood clotting. No public data on age or underlying conditions.


Talking heads this morning on CNBC mention that if its found to only clot in young people, J&J may be administered to older population only like the AstraZeneca is in Great Britian.

[Scarlet]

Are these drug companies continuing to develop vaccine boosters or newer versions for when it's determined the current ones we have all been taking don't work against the variants?

[Drew S.]

Are these drug companies continuing to develop vaccine boosters or newer versions for when it's determined the current ones we have all been taking don't work against the variants?

They’ve been working on them since day one. The scientists aren’t the issue.

[dxmnkd316]

You're still about a billion times more likely to get a clot from COVID

[BassAle]

Six cases of blood clotting. No public data on age or underlying conditions.


Talking heads this morning on CNBC mention that if its found to only clot in young people, J&J may be administered to older population only like the AstraZeneca is in Great Britian.

All women, between 18 and 48 years of age.

You know what else can cause blood clots? Birth control, but it's still used by millions of women every day.

[dxmnkd316]

[BassAle]

there is a decent chance these women were also taking birth control

[Drew S.]

You're still about a billion times more likely to get a clot from COVID

Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot really is amazing. This gives tens of millions of people a great out as far as not getting a vaccine.

[dxmnkd316]

Based on the numbers, it's literally one in a million. With covid, it's one in eight. I'd get the shot tomorrow.

[JF_Gophers]

Pausing vaccines is just going to destroy public confidence. Why are our leaders such idiots? Particularly given the extreme rarity of these side effects.

[Swansong]

We are so bad at math and at risk analysis

[ScoobyDoo]

Shutting it down is insane. Appears to be young women related. So give that group a different vaccine and give J and J to the rest of us. I guess I'm glad I got mine done yesterday. My daughter is in that group and got J and J on Saturday. She looked at the math and is not worried about it.

[SJHovey]

Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot really is amazing. This gives tens of millions of people a great out as far as not getting a vaccine.

Tens of millions of people were already not going to get the vaccine.

I think we're going to hit a point here in early to mid-May where it'll be as easy to get a Covid shot in this country as it is to buy a bag of chips. You'll be able to walk in and get one. We'll be begging people to get the shots, and we'll be at about 50% of the public vaccinated.

At that point, politicians are going to have a very interesting problem on their hands. There is still going to be Covid and hospitalizations and deaths, and maybe still at decent rates, but no one will be getting vaccinated anymore in any sort of volume. So now what do they do? Open things up fully?

[dxmnkd316]

there is a decent chance these women were also taking birth control

Agreed. I thought I read in the article that this was a particularly rare clotting syndrome though. Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. It also mentioned this required something other than heparin to treat, which caught my eye.

from Dr. Wiki:
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis is rare, with an estimated 3-4 cases per million annual incidence in adults. While it may occur in all age groups, it is most common in the third decade. 75% are female. Given that older studies show no difference in incidence between men and women, it has been suggested that the use ofÃ? oral contraceptivesÃ? in women is behind the disparity between the sexes.


so in other words, 7 million people have gotten the vaccine, six people developed clots. We'd expect 21-28 people to develop clots in a group of similar size. I'd say there's evidence the vaccine helps prevent clots ;-)

[dxmnkd316]

Tens of millions of people were already not going to get the vaccine.

I think we're going to hit a point here in early to mid-May where it'll be as easy to get a Covid shot in this country as it is to buy a bag of chips. You'll be able to walk in and get one. We'll be begging people to get the shots, and we'll be at about 50% of the public vaccinated.

At that point, politicians are going to have a very interesting problem on their hands. There is still going to be Covid and hospitalizations and deaths, and maybe still at decent rates, but no one will be getting vaccinated anymore in any sort of volume. So now what do they do? Open things up fully?

Vaccine passports. Simple.