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  • Originally posted by unofan View Post

    If you're intoxicated, I don't know that you can form a legal "intent" to drive. Doesn't matter because you don't need to have that intent, just the factual condition of operating or driving a motor vehicle. But intoxication can get a murder charge reduced to manslaughter because the intoxication can negate the ability to form the intent to commit the crime.

    The most absurd criminal case I've heard of being prosecuted is a statutory rape case where a guy was in a bar talking to a girl with a drink, thought she looked young and literally asked to see her id, and she showed him the fake that got her in the door and the booze from the bar. Turns out she was only 17. Court says it doesn't matter that you wouldn't have slept with her if you knew she was underage, that you attempted to discern her actual age, that she lied to you and said she was of age, that she was in a bar drinking booze, or that she showed you an ID showing she was of age that you had no reason to believe was fake. You slept with her, and she was in fact underage, so your conviction stands.

    If that can happen, then I'm all for going after people who recklessly attend mass gatherings, thereby endangering public health by spreading a communicable disease. They're a helluva lot more culpable.
    Please tell me that didn't stand up on appeal.
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    • Look, I understand it's the fantasy of most people here that we start prosecuting people for spreading Covid, or we prosecute employers who have employees who catch Covid, yada, yada, yada.

      But let's say I attend a "Covid party," while infected, and attend with others who are infected. Further say that someone at that party who was not infected now shows up, a few days later, as infected. Before you throw me in prison, ask yourself this question: How do you know it was me who caused the infection?

      When a college football player dies from Covid, good luck identifying, beyond a reasonable doubt, the identity of the person who infected them.
      That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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      • Originally posted by Swansong View Post

        The person that went to the wedding could have been asymptomatic and never knew. Or they could have gone to work before they developed symptoms, which can take up to 14 or so days to develop (but usually with 3-5 or so).




        And DGF - be well man. I'm glad to hear you didn't wait and immediately addressed it.
        Which is why the whole " no large gatherings" thing.
        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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        • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

          Look, I understand it's the fantasy of most people here that we start prosecuting people for spreading Covid, or we prosecute employers who have employees who catch Covid, yada, yada, yada.

          But let's say I attend a "Covid party," while infected, and attend with others who are infected. Further say that someone at that party who was not infected now shows up, a few days later, as infected. Before you throw me in prison, ask yourself this question: How do you know it was me who caused the infection?

          When a college football player dies from Covid, good luck identifying, beyond a reasonable doubt, the identity of the person who infected them.
          Because going to "the mob killed him, but you can't prove which person threw the kick/punch/elbow/knee that was actually the killing blow" defense stands up so well.

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          • Originally posted by unofan View Post
            Turns out she was only 17.
            there are states where the age of consent is 18?

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            • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
              You wanna-be Perry Mason types, can you stick to your purported medical "expertise", please?

              The idea that you'd be able to create a direct causal link to specific people beyond a reasonable doubt would be challenging enough ... but there's this "intent" thingie, which turns your theoretical witch-hunt from "challenging" to "impossible". No self-respecting district attorney in their right mind would ever charge anyone in this scenario, and for quite obvious reasons. If a relative of yours got charged on something like this, you'd be (rightfully) irate.

              Totalitarian morons.

              Boy, for someone who hates the forum kindergarten, Dip**** sure comes here a lot.
              But if it's some nameless faceless people half a continent away, it's easy to create and harpoon scapegoats.
              Like Jhina?

              What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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              • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                Because going to "the mob killed him, but you can't prove which person threw the kick/punch/elbow/knee that was actually the killing blow" defense stands up so well.
                You're planning to charge the Covid party participants under RICO now? Ok, good luck.
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                • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

                  You're planning to charge the Covid party participants under RICO now? Ok, good luck.
                  lowercase mob. As in the lynching kind, not Capone.

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                  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                    It's an Echo Chamber talking point that has been drilled into these rubes. I've heard it vomited back from other RWNJ. It's all they have.

                    The point of these lunatic narratives that Chuck and others are disgorging is not information to be debated and rebutted. It's a recruitment tool fascists use to seek others who are receptive to their real message, which is Dumpiness. By engaging you are spreading his propaganda and doing his work for him.
                    ^^^When the Flamming Facist has no idea he is a Facist. Priceless.

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                    • Originally posted by unofan View Post

                      lowercase mob. As in the lynching kind, not Capone.
                      Ok. Even so, if you have a mob of people and someone throws a brick or a punch or whatever that kills someone, using your example, aren't you going to have to prove which person threw the brick or punch to prosecute someone for murder? I suppose you could try to show some sort of felony murder case, but what's the felony in the Covid example?

                      Anyway, for what it's worth, here is the Minnesota statute on communicable disease transmission prosecution that I assume came about due to HIV. Seems like it would be tough to prosecute here in Minnesota under this statute.

                      https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.2241

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                      • The #BedWetters are an absolute disaster. There is no other way around it.

                        Should we start prosecuting unhealthy people because they get sick more often and pass around viruses more than healthy people? Should there be some standard measurements of health and if you don’t fall online you pay a tax for your inconvenience to society?

                        Once Covid is done do we prosecute the Flu or don’t those deaths matter? Or any other transmittable disease, illness, ect.?

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                        • Doesn't have to be murder. All or nothing with you apologists.

                          How about threat to society? The public health? Pprobably any number of things in the public health code they could be charged with.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • EL-OH-EL. A penalty to those who aren't healthy (non-COVID)? A standard measurement of health and you're 'taxed' if unhealthy? Jebbers! just described the state of Healthcare in general in the US, especially so if ACA is taken away or gutted.
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                            • How ****ing stupid do you have to be to not understand that the USA Health Care System already punishes you for being unhealthy? To a large ****ing degree. You'd have to be ****ing sleepwalking through life.
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                              • Originally posted by rufus View Post
                                Doesn't have to be murder. All or nothing with you apologists.

                                How about threat to society? The public health? Pprobably any number of things in the public health code they could be charged with.
                                I was using his example.

                                Again, find some statutes and examples where people are being prosecuted. I imagine if someone has it and intentionally coughs in someone's face they could be prosecuted for assault or battery, and I think there have even been some arrests in that regard. But going to a wedding and then getting prosecuted because you later were in the same room or workplace as someone who later got sick? I don't see that happening.
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