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  • Beautiful August evening it was great to see all the kids out playing Ball at the multiple fields tonight. Had some Soccer going as well.

    Fresh air, Sun light, exercise, human interaction. Doesn’t get any better than that.

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    • Originally posted by rufus View Post

      That's our Jebbers.
      Hey Dufus, hope you are well and staying safer than you could have ever imagined.

      You are 2020 hero, wearing your bacteria infested rag over your pie hole.


      Dufus

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      • Originally posted by WisconsinWildcard View Post

        Same. I know a fair number of teachers and not a single one thinks it is the best idea to go back. I have a good friend who is pregnant and teaches kindergarten who is being forced back for in person class. I have basically given her a crash course on PPE and got what I could for her to use (N95, face mask) because the school is only providing a surgical mask.

        I expect it will last a week or two...at least that is my hope...before they go to virtual.
        I thought pregnancy comes with some grim prognoses if you get COVID.
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        Originally posted by SanTropez
        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
        Originally posted by Kepler
        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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        • Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

          Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?

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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post

            And, assuming those parents are not sociopaths, that means those people you know are Dumpies who don't believe it's that big a deal because of what they've heard on the news.

            I am very happy to live in a more educated and informed place and only wish all my loved ones did. Not to put too fine a point on it, but we are at risk from you.

            Enjoy your freedom and I hope you and the people you care for don't get sick, because a metric sh-t ton of people who think the way you do have and will and, much more unfairly, they've also infected a whole bunch of people who knew better and whose only crime was to be in the wrong place when you did your reckless equivalent of epidemiological drunken driving and plowed into them.
            Did you even bother to read my post before responding? I simply reported what parents that I knew expressed to me.
            That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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            • Originally posted by SJHovey View Post

              Did you even bother to read my post before responding? I simply reported what parents that I knew expressed to me.
              Uh... did you read what he posted?
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              College Hockey 6       College Football 0
              BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

                Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
                Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.

                If I’m a company, I do everything legal to protect people from this because we just don’t know what’s going to happen when the lawsuits start. And they will.

                And we certainly don’t know how a jury is going to react when they’re angry and fed up with being sent to the woodchipper by large corporations so CEO ****face can have another $100k in bonuses.
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                College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                Originally posted by SanTropez
                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                  Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

                  Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
                  If someone was that hysterical about this why would they go back to work?

                  Would you rather a company come out and fire or furlough everyone?

                  You folks are absolutely bat sh*t crazy.
                  Last edited by Jeb2020; 08-18-2020, 11:36 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by WisconsinWildcard View Post

                    Agree 100%. All of the teachers I know want to do their job...just safely. Same with everyone in my hospital system.
                    And who didn't want to do their jobs? Most of my trump-loving members. In March covid was a hoax to damage trump's reelection chances and nothing more than a good, old fashioned flu bug. Yet as soon as the congress passed all those juicy unemployment benefit upgrades, my members insisted they were not essential workers and their employers should shut down until the danger had passed. For two solid weeks I fielded one inquiry after another from a member who wanted to file grievances or charges against their employer for remaining operational and forcing them to come to work. Literally from some of the same people who told me it was a hoax weeks earlier so "my boy Biden" could get elected and turn the country over to the socialists.

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                    • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                      Wondering if anyone has seen anything about liability of the workplace- if the person gets C-19 when working then is this workmens com? If the workplace is aware they are putting the person at risk (which there is no way not be at risk, only mitigate it) then how much liability do they have? It isn't like they don't know of the risk. Are they responsible for outlining the risk?

                      Maybe I am thinking of this as a medical person but if I know of a risk and do not inform the pt then I am liable. Is this the same for workplaces that put people in situations that will almost guarantee the exposure knowing they can't prevent it- are they responsible for admitting risk?
                      Worker's compensation laws vary greatly from state to state, but even the most generous states are not looking to find employers liable for injury or illness an employee claims is related to or caused by work. The problem with finding an employer responsible is even with precise contract tracing and testing there really might not be any way to know where a person comes into contact with a virus. Most people do catch their colds or flu from home, work or school simply because that is where people spend almost 100% of their time. Well for the kids it USED to be school.

                      I doubt you will see a lot of people who suffer great expense and long term effects from covid-19 being able to successfully claim it under workers compensation insurance.

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                      • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                        Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.
                        Most states (maybe all states?) go a long way to prevent employees being able to sue an employer for any kind of a workplace injury. Exceptions are pretty narrow and usually require either a willful or intentional act by the employer or gross negligence. Simple negligence usually means workers compensation is all you are entitled to. Some states allow people to waive in their entirety their rights to have injuries treated under workers compensation insurance in exchange for the right to bring a lawsuit against the company.

                        Yet another horrible thing states do is they race to the bottom to see who can have the least generous system so insurance rates and payroll taxes for the employer can be nice and low. States that advertises as a great place to "do business" usually have awful unemployment and workers compensation laws/rules. Which is stupid, because the states that do a better job (MN is a decent example) still have plenty of profitable businesses and manage to have plenty of fortune 500 type businesses working there.

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                        • Minnesota is actually a great example. More fortune x00 companies per capital than any state but NY or something like that.

                          extremely high standard of living meets “far, far away from the coasts”.
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                          As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
                          College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                          BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                          Originally posted by SanTropez
                          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                          Originally posted by Kepler
                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                            Wondering the same thing. I’m also curious about liability if someone else gets injured because of negligence by the employer.

                            If I’m a company, I do everything legal to protect people from this because we just don’t know what’s going to happen when the lawsuits start. And they will.

                            And we certainly don’t know how a jury is going to react when they’re angry and fed up with being sent to the woodchipper by large corporations so CEO ****face can have another $100k in bonuses.
                            It's always projection from the right wingers
                            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                            • Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post

                              Most states (maybe all states?) go a long way to prevent employees being able to sue an employer for any kind of a workplace injury. Exceptions are pretty narrow and usually require either a willful or intentional act by the employer or gross negligence. Simple negligence usually means workers compensation is all you are entitled to. Some states allow people to waive in their entirety their rights to have injuries treated under workers compensation insurance in exchange for the right to bring a lawsuit against the company.

                              Yet another horrible thing states do is they race to the bottom to see who can have the least generous system so insurance rates and payroll taxes for the employer can be nice and low. States that advertises as a great place to "do business" usually have awful unemployment and workers compensation laws/rules. Which is stupid, because the states that do a better job (MN is a decent example) still have plenty of profitable businesses and manage to have plenty of fortune 500 type businesses working there.
                              Yeah South Dakota is pushing hard for businesses to move there.

                              it’s cute

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                              • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

                                Uh... did you read what he posted?
                                I did.

                                I posted what friends, who are parents, stated to me. I offered no opinion on their statements. Kepler responded by saying, and I quote,

                                Enjoy your freedom and I hope you and the people you care for don't get sick, because a metric sh-t ton of people who think the way you do have and will and, much more unfairly, they've also infected a whole bunch of people who knew better and whose only crime was to be in the wrong place when you did your reckless equivalent of epidemiological drunken driving and plowed into them.
                                That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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