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  • Originally posted by board View Post

    There's more than one of us.
    You are legion.
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    • So, board is Borg? Figures.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • I am skeptical.
        "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
        -aparch

        "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
        -INCH

        Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
        -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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        • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          I am skeptical.
          mookie thought you were handy?
          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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          • So board...can you explain if there are going to be any changes made to this "new" board that will actually improve it now that it has been around a while. I mean we still cant use emoticons, it still runs slow as heck, it still glitches out when showing new posts in certain threads (especially if a blocked person posts) and as you can probably tell that has lead to a massive decrease in the amount of people posting here now.

            Is there any plans to add any functionality or fix the problems? Is there something we can do to help?
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
            -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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            • Bump. At a minimum, give me my UserCP/Subscriptions back. That page was literally perfect.
              Code:
              As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
              College Hockey 6       College Football 0
              BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
              Originally posted by SanTropez
              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
              Originally posted by Kepler
              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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              • All of the above. Or if you are really trying to kill it fess up

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                • Now half the threads I post in dont show there are new posts. I literally have to guess based on their placement. Students in my intro classes have web sites with better functionality than this...
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                  -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                  • My Mets site is also going to a new format today. Is this a new trend in cheaping out or something?
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                    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      My Mets site is also going to a new format today. Is this a new trend in cheaping out or something?
                      Not an IT person so don't really get how this stuff works but it totally baffles me why anyone would install this downgrade. It has lost almost all functionality. Is it because they have to pay to use the particular format and the less function the cheaper? Sort of like the base model vs the loaded version? I know there are some threads I have been on for yrs that have had multiple participants who checked in daily. After this they are almost non-existent and can go days without a post.

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                      • I'm sure there are Reasons. It may be cheaper, it may be lower maintenance. The ROI on forums is likely not as high because the ads they slam you with are far easier to ignore in an environment in which we're just talking to each other.

                        Remember always that USCHO and CHN exist to make money, and we are the product. We are being sold to advertisers and there is a constant arms race between their attempts to rape our attention and our attempts to protect ourselves. Situations in which we can withdraw our attention from their garbage are inherently not in the interest of those sites to continue. They aren't malicious, but they aren't charities.

                        The irony is we don't need USCHO at all. All we need is a stable forum platform. They, on the other hand, are utterly dependent on us. If we go away they crater, instantly.

                        So, we have power. If they institute changes that suck we need to let them know. If they aren't responsive we have to be willing to leave. I appreciate the existence of USCHO and have been a paying member since forever, but I am also not a charity, and when it's no longer worth the bother of navigating through their insulting and debasing ads, it's time to go.
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                        ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                        Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                        • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post

                          Not an IT person so don't really get how this stuff works but it totally baffles me why anyone would install this downgrade.
                          The previous major version of vBulletin probably fell out of support, which means they would no longer provide patching or updates for it after the cutoff date.

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                          • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                            The previous major version of vBulletin probably fell out of support, which means they would no longer provide patching or updates for it after the cutoff date.
                            I have no idea what that means.

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                            • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post

                              The previous major version of vBulletin probably fell out of support, which means they would no longer provide patching or updates for it after the cutoff date.
                              Which would explain why we're seeing a spate of downgrades.

                              The question is, why do the later versions suck? Presumably developers are always trying to add value -- at minimum with bug fixes, but also by improving performance and designing better UI. What generally happens is providers add features nobody wants which suck away all the good developers' LOE, while bloating the application and destroying the user experience. Marketing isn't about retaining users, it's about attracting new users. New users, as a rule, mean Eternal September and regression to the dumbest, lowest attention span, and most-easily separated from his money user.

                              Serving the subset of people with intelligence and taste is an excellent way to go bankrupt when compared to serving normal people. So, good things always get bad.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 08-05-2020, 11:30 AM.
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                              National Champion 1967, 1970
                              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                              Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                              • Originally posted by leswp1 View Post

                                I have no idea what that means.
                                The previous major version of vBulletin was v4, originating sometime around 2009. v5 (launched in 2012) is the next version. In between major versions, major and minor patches (updates to the major version which fix bugs or provide additional functionality) are released which are often represented as additional points after the major version number (4.1, 4.4, 5.6.1, etc.).

                                At a certain point, the company who makes vBulletin (MH Sub I) would stop offering updates to v4 and force customers to upgrade to v5 in order to continue getting updates and customer support for reported issues. I've read that support for vBulletin v3 and 4 ended back in in 2017.

                                Microsoft does this all the time with Windows and Office - support for Windows 7 ended in January 2020 and all remaining customers are expected to upgrade to Windows 10 to continue receiving updates and customer support.

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