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  • #841
    Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Can we shoot the brownies on sight too? May as well. Get er done Mr. President.
    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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    • #842
      Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
      SJHovey completely missing the point, as usual
      My point isn't that I expect or hold out hope that mainstream providers of the news like FOX and CNN ever behave in a way that truly informs the citizenry, it is that since they do not, people mostly walk around uninformed. You only want to attack anything I post, so you always miss the point. But I appreciate the lecture.

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      • #843
        Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post


        1) Before the election, CNN didn't give Trump positive press...it was rightly quite negative. Comey's indictment of Clinton a week before the election caused Trump to win...not CNN's criticism of Trump. CNN did its job by help getting rational voters to go for Clinton. The electoral college made it so the smear of Clinton mattered more than exposure to Trump's true nature.

        2) If you're just looking for a one sided perspective (a liberal, fact-based Fox), watch Madow, Huffpo, etc

        Truth is liberals and independents generally want a rather unbiased source of information. I know I do. I want the straight news and then I am smart enough to make the call from there. CNN has less bias than these other sources (i.e., MSNBC, Daily Beast)and has more cred than them among the broader society. That's why a straight up liberal radio station doesn't work. Secondly, liberals want to win a fair debate where there are multiple ideas - and they want to win, but by the rules. These reasons are why before Trump, MSNBC had much lower ratings than CNN. And will again when we get away from Trump and there is not nearly so much to unpack. CNN is the big tent media outlet.
        I'm with you, I only want facts and the occasional deeper conversation about the events. I also realize the CNN coverage of trump is -- and has been -- mostly unfavorable. But not in a way that that leaves the viewer more informed and understanding the deeper existential threats being delivered to our democracy. If they did, they'd likely turn off far more viewers than they would attract. CNN covers trump in a way that is designed to maximize viewers. I wish we had more wide reaching broadcast outlets that saw the news as more of a calling than a profit center but those days are many decades in the rearview mirror.

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        • #844
          Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

          Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
          My point isn't that I expect or hold out hope that mainstream providers of the news like FOX and CNN ever behave in a way that truly informs the citizenry, it is that since they do not, people mostly walk around uninformed. You only want to attack anything I post, so you always miss the point. But I appreciate the lecture.
          We all go to school. We all can read. The core tenant of school in this country as far as I can tell is critical thinking. Anyone who can critically think can discern and figure out what's good journalism and what isn't good journalism. All the fast food joints have good food on the menu if you know where to look. And we all can read between the lines.

          If you're part of the 40% and a Fox News 24 hour a day consumer who refuses to think you are wasting God's greatest gift. Your ability to think.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #845
            Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!


            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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            • #846
              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              We all go to school. We all can read. The core tenant of school in this country as far as I can tell is critical thinking. Anyone who can critically think can discern and figure out what's good journalism and what isn't good journalism. All the fast food joints have good food on the menu if you know where to look. And we all can read between the lines.

              If you're part of the 40% and a Fox News 24 hour a day consumer who refuses to think you are wasting God's greatest gift. Your ability to think.
              Ah but is good journalism what you agree with and bad journalism what you disagree with??

              When the OpEd page gets to the front page, *that* is bad journalism.
              CCT '77 & '78
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              • #847
                Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Fox primetime lineup is irritainment and righty op-ed nonsense. MSNBC is the same way, but for the left. Tucker Carlson and Lawrence O'Donnell work the same smug, pseudo-intellectual angle, they just do it from different sides.

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                • #848
                  Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                  Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the Fox primetime lineup is irritainment and righty op-ed nonsense. MSNBC is the same way, but for the left. Tucker Carlson and Lawrence O'Donnell work the same smug, pseudo-intellectual angle, they just do it from different sides.
                  MSNBC is not the same way. Hayes and Maddow do fantastic work.
                  **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                  Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                  Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                  • #849
                    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                    Godmotherfu**ingdammit.

                    My wife *just* put a down payment on a brand new factory built Chevy Blazer. Was told it would take six weeks. And now she may have to wait indefinitely?
                    “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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                    • #850
                      Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      MSNBC is not the same way. Hayes and Maddow do fantastic work.
                      Yeah, Maddow is "great". Remember last year when she teased the release of one of Trump's tax returns, dragged it out for a whole show, and it turned out to be a giant nothingburger?

                      Even Colbert made fun of her for that crap.
                      Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 12-28-2018, 11:29 AM.

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                      • #851
                        Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        Yeah, Maddow is "great". Remember last year when she teased the release of one of Trump's tax returns, dragged it out for a whole show, and it turned out to be a giant nothingburger?

                        Even Colbert made fun of her for that crap.
                        It was part of his tax return. She didn't lie. I could spend a decade listing Tucker Carlson's lies. Frankly I'm not going to take the time. Her Podcast "Bag Man" is getting rave reviews all over the place.
                        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • #852
                          Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          It was part of his tax return. She didn't lie. I could spend a decade listing Tucker Carlson's lies. Frankly I'm not going to take the time. Her Podcast "Bag Man" is getting rave reviews all over the place.
                          It was the "Al Capone Vault" of the 21st century.
                          “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

                          Live Radio from 100.3

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                          • #853
                            Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                            Maddow is one of the smartest out there and she is a full on Policy Nerd who can discuss this stuff at its highest levels and make it interesting and digestible. That said her show has been borderline unwatchable for a while now. It is quite obvious how angry she is (and rightly so) and it really has dragged down the level of the overall show. She probably covers specific stories better than anyone (mainly because she doesnt even hint at trying to be down the middle so she can ask ***?!) but the overall quality of the show is lacking. I would still take her over everyone else at any of the 24 hour fast food joints

                            In other news:




                            Shutting the Government down...to own the Libs. God I hope they do it...extend this out as long as possible that will work out so well for you!
                            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                            -INCH

                            Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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                            • #854
                              Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...border-n946651

                              They haven't built a single wall section yet. Not one. Zero. Nothing.

                              Trump has been lying the whole time.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • #855
                                Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!

                                In other news water is wet
                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                                -INCH

                                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                                -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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