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  • #391
    Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Careful, now you are treading into the conservative, "See? They don't really care about her. This is all just a hit job." territory.
    Right. It does tend to reinforce that notion.

    A significant difference with Kavanaugh and Joe Blow, and why there's a need to be careful with unsubstantiated allegations, is there are 100 milion people already with a motive to malign Kavanaugh in any way they can. So I think we should be careful with these kinds of things. We're really not being very careful at all though.
    Originally posted by WiscTJK
    I'm with Wisko and Tim.
    Originally posted by Timothy A
    Other than Wisko McBadgerton and Badger Bob, who is universally loved by all?

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    • #392
      Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

      Originally posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
      Right. It does tend to reinforce that notion.

      A significant difference with Kavanaugh and Joe Blow, and why there's a need to be careful with unsubstantiated allegations, is there are 100 milion people already with a motive to malign Kavanaugh in any way they can. So I think we should be careful with these kinds of things. We're really not being very careful at all though.
      It sets a precedent.
      Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
      Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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      • #393
        Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
        And again, just because he's a turd and not worth a nomination doesn't make him guilty of sexual assault.
        LITERALLY NO ONE IS ARGUING THlS

        And while very important to take seriously, the only remaining important aspect of the sexual assault claims is how we can handle them better. The statute of limitations has run out in every case that has been made public so far from what I understand. It's also important that we continue to support these survivors by acknowledging them and affording them the investigations they deserve. If that means delaying a SCOTUS nomination a year or more, so be it. The precedent of leaving a seat open that long was already set by Mitch McConnell. There is no reason to rush this other than partisan or malicious intent. If he's truly the right guy, he can stand to wait until this investigation has been exhausted.

        What we need to learn as a country is how to handle these accusations and how they should impact us and our government. We can also have a conversation about what consent is, what is and isn't appropriate behavior for a nominee while being questioned, etc.

        Maybe, eventually, we can decide whether a 17-year-old's crimes should impact a genuinely remorseful and repentant person's current life 30 years later. But we haven't seen many cases of that because so few are willing to acknowledge their actions, make efforts to right the wrongs assuming the survivors don't object, and change their ways. And I'm not talking about someone who is exposed 30 years later and then goes through the apology tour. I'm talking about people like Cory Booker who acknowledged his past, was remorseful, and has made efforts to fix things. I can't think of anyone else who offered themselves up like that; and maybe he published that because someone else was going to. I have no idea.

        I really think everyone on this board should try to watch the Consent documentary/episode by Vice. The last 10 minutes were the most interesting.
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        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
        Originally posted by Kepler
        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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        • #394
          Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

          I have seen different. Yes, I agree we need to handle these things better. From my POV, I have seen he's not fit because he's a sex offender. Wrong. That hasn't been proven.

          Believe me, he has enough doubts aside from that claim to eliminate him. I simply don't want him labeled unjustly. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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          • #395
            Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

            Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
            I simply don't want him labeled unjustly.
            You really want to play the protector of a privileged, white, 1%er?

            Good grief. This doesn't make you the better person and this isn't a zero-sum game. Straight, white, Christian men don't need or deserve the same effort as any of the protected groups.

            He'd run you over with his car if it meant advancing his own.
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            Originally posted by SanTropez
            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
            Originally posted by Kepler
            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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            • #396
              Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              You really want to play the protector of a privileged, white, 1%er?

              Good grief. This doesn't make you the better person and this isn't a zero-sum game. Straight, white, Christian men don't need or deserve the same effort as any of the protected groups.

              He'd run you over with his car if it meant advancing his own.
              He could be a serial killer. But if he is innocent of this charge, he's innocent of this charge. Plain and simple. Please, understand that basic concept. Just because he's a straight, white, Christian male, doesn't mean he's automatically guilty.
              Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
              Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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              • #397
                Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                You really want to play the protector of a privileged, white, 1%er?

                Good grief. This doesn't make you the better person and this isn't a zero-sum game. Straight, white, Christian men don't need or deserve the same effort as any of the protected groups.

                He'd run you over with his car if it meant advancing his own.
                Minorities should have more privileges than white men. You said it. That's sad. What happened to "All men are created equal"?
                Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                • #398
                  Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                  Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                  Minorities should have more privileges than white men. You said it. That's sad. What happened to "All men are created equal"?
                  No. He didn't.

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                  • #399
                    Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                    Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                    No. He didn't.
                    Yes, he actually did. I literally sat back, read, re-read, then re-read it. Read the bold.
                    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                    Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                    • #400
                      Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                      Just because he's a straight, white, Christian male, doesn't mean he's automatically guilty.
                      Said literally no one.

                      You are the most quixotic and bromidic debater I've ever come across.




                      and if you need change for those words, I have singles.
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                      Originally posted by SanTropez
                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #401
                        Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        Yes, he actually did. I literally sat back, read, re-read, then re-read it. Read the bold.
                        He never said anyone deserves MORE privilege, he said some people need more EFFORT to get the same privileges. Those are two very different things.

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                        • #402
                          Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                          Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                          He never said anyone deserves MORE privilege, he said some people need more EFFORT to get the same privileges. Those are two very different things.
                          The sentiment is the same. We need to treat minorities differently than white folk. That is wrong, on all levels.
                          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                          • #403
                            Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                            Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                            The sentiment is the same. We need to treat minorities differently than white folk. That is wrong, on all levels.
                            Yes, we treat minorities like garbage, which is why they need more effort to receive the same privileges. If you can't acknowledge that, quite simply, you are racist.

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                            • #404
                              Re: SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              Said literally no one.

                              You are the most quixotic and bromidic debater I've ever come across.




                              and if you need change for those words, I have singles.
                              Let's put this in words you can understand: you are the whitest person I know, your white guilt is showing, and your condescension towards others is HOF material.
                              Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                              Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                              • #405
                                Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                                Yes, we treat minorities like garbage, which is why they need more effort to receive the same privileges. If you can't acknowledge that, quite simply, you are racist.
                                This is how MAGA started, no? White men not grasping this

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