POTUS 45.38: Truth! Justice! And the American Way!!

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Ewwwwwww. Apparently, new Don Jr. effpig got fired from Fox news for showing dick pics of him to her coworkers.

[French Rage]

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Flaggy found a new job: https://twitter.com/BJ_Schwartz/stat...91898140516352

[Rogie21]

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Today's below-the-radar scandal from Trump's cabinet of deplorables:

The Betsy DeVos approach would undo nearly a decade of efforts to create an accountability system for the largely unregulated and scandal-riddled for-profit sector of higher education https://t.co/g9U70DVk5h

— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 27, 2018

Last year, DeVos picked the dean of a for-profit school to head DOE's anti-fraud unit.
#thebestpeople #foxinthehenhouse

[Rover]

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I don't think those are the choices. It would basically be up to Congress to impeach and convict him. Do you really see that happening?

I'm not 100% sold on the "the President can't be charged while in office" schtick. It would have to be a serious crime, and not a traffic violation but treason is a good example or bribery. I don't think we can expect to wait up to 4 years for someone to face justice for either of those examples just because politicians are too wimpy to do the right thing.

[ScoobyDoo]

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I don't think those are the choices. It would basically be up to Congress to impeach and convict him. Do you really see that happening?

Yes. And that's a false choice. It used to be that the President was not above the law. Now he is.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Your hand has been forced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvaYFTiDZ8

[dxmnkd316]

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A judge earlier this week has allowed the emoluments case against Trump to proceed forward. Apologies if this was already talked about in this thread, but I hadn't seen it mentioned (not saying I didn't miss it).

The interesting ramifications to this could be that if Trump is found to be in violation of the Emoluments clause, he would be forced to divest his portion of his own company, or potentially walk away from the Presidency.

What I also find interesting is that Trump could potentially appeal this all the way to the supreme court, which he just stacked in his favor.

I don't think those are the choices. It would basically be up to Congress to impeach and convict him. Do you really see that happening?

[ScoobyDoo]

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By the time this works its way through the court system hopefully Chump's presidency would have come to a merciful end at the hands of the voters. Having said that if something is written in the constitution even a stacked SCOTUS might be hesitant to endorse breaking the law. For example, a similarly stacked SCOTUS ruled that George W Bush did not have the power to detain American citizens indefinitely without trail by claiming we were at war. Only certified loon Scalia I believe went along with that position meaning even Roberts and Thomas thought it was nuts. Not sure if Alito was on the court by then.

It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that any law while a Republican President is in the White House is irrelevant as long as the Republicans control one House of Congress. So, the next politician clown that tries the "we're a nation of laws" bit on me is going to get a dismissive chuckle.

[Rover]

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A judge earlier this week has allowed the emoluments case against Trump to proceed forward. Apologies if this was already talked about in this thread, but I hadn't seen it mentioned (not saying I didn't miss it).

The interesting ramifications to this could be that if Trump is found to be in violation of the Emoluments clause, he would be forced to divest his portion of his own company, or potentially walk away from the Presidency.

What I also find interesting is that Trump could potentially appeal this all the way to the supreme court, which he just stacked in his favor.

By the time this works its way through the court system hopefully Chump's presidency would have come to a merciful end at the hands of the voters. Having said that if something is written in the constitution even a stacked SCOTUS might be hesitant to endorse breaking the law. For example, a similarly stacked SCOTUS ruled that George W Bush did not have the power to detain American citizens indefinitely without trail by claiming we were at war. Only certified loon Scalia I believe went along with that position meaning even Roberts and Thomas thought it was nuts. Not sure if Alito was on the court by then.

[aparch]

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A judge earlier this week has allowed the emoluments case against Trump to proceed forward. Apologies if this was already talked about in this thread, but I hadn't seen it mentioned (not saying I didn't miss it).

The interesting ramifications to this could be that if Trump is found to be in violation of the Emoluments clause, he would be forced to divest his portion of his own company, or potentially walk away from the Presidency.

What I also find interesting is that Trump could potentially appeal this all the way to the supreme court, which he just stacked in his favor.

[ScoobyDoo]

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While Harwood's overall point stands, his data isn't exactly correct. The St. Louis Fed shows different numbers as you move along the chart.

Also, Trump is touting preliminary numbers, which almost always get adjusted downward.

That's not the problem. The problem is he used the word amazing. There is nothing amazing about it.

[St. Clown]

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More lies.





This President sucks.

While Harwood's overall point stands, his data isn't exactly correct. The St. Louis Fed shows different numbers as you move along the chart.

Also, Trump is touting preliminary numbers, which almost always get adjusted downward.

[ScoobyDoo]

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More lies.

Trump touts 'amazing' 4.1 percent U.S. economic growth

strong 4.1% growth under Trump in Q2 of 2018 would rank as 5th strongest Q of Obama presidency

—5.1% Q2 2014
—4.9% Q3 2014
—4.7% Q4 2011
—4.5% Q4 2009
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) July 27, 2018

This President sucks.

[Rover]

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It wont matter. Even if you believe him (I do) it isnt like he has much credibility anyways and unless he has some evidence that backs up his claim it can be easily dismissed. Mueller can talk to him until he is blue in the face but it wont get do much outside of get him to look for something to corroborate it.

Corroboration either comes from taped conversations or another person who was there. Tapes from what I understand absolutely sunk Nixon. When he's on tape directing the CIA to tell the FBI to back off and authorizing payments to Watergate burglars, it got a little tough to keep defending the guy from the accusations which he himself ended up confirming were true.

If I were Cohen I'd hire a food taster right about now and wear a "KGB Agent Detector" around my neck. I doubt those 100 conversations he taped with Chump are about the weather.

[Handyman]

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House Republicans won't be interested in "several others" but the Senate intelligence committee will be. Some guy named Mueller, too. And there likely will be a renewed effort to learn more about Junior's post-meeting calls to a blocked number.

It wont matter. Even if you believe him (I do) it isnt like he has much credibility anyways and unless he has some evidence that backs up his claim it can be easily dismissed. Mueller can talk to him until he is blue in the face but it wont get do much outside of get him to look for something to corroborate it.