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  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

    It would be ironic if the global rollback of fascism began in... Italy?

    Italy's anti-establishment Five Star Movement (M5S) and the center-left opposition Democratic Party (PD) agreed on Wednesday to form a new coalition government and avoid snap elections which could favor Matteo Salvini's far-right League Party.
    The League is the usual melange of righty nutbarisms (nationalist, federalist, anti-immigration, racist, Euroskeptic) and they were looking to ally with the actual fascist party so this, temporarily at least, locks the far right out of power.

    The new coalition government as similar to our liberals and our conservdems burying their differences and joining to block the neofascist Republicans.
    Last edited by Kepler; 08-29-2019, 05:47 AM.
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    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      It would be ironic if the global rollback of fascism began in... Italy?
      Given that for a few years we've looked to the German Chancellor to be the bulwark against it, I'd say we passed irony awhile ago.

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      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

        Revisionist history of WWII:

        “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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        • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

          I listened to an interview with Daniel Immerwahr on “On the Media”: “Empire State of Mind” which blew me away, and makes his book “How to Hide an Empire” my next must-read. I never knew any of that stuff about guano mining, or the Philippines, or Puerto Rico, etc etc
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          • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

            Originally posted by aparch View Post
            Revisionist history of WWII:

            That's amazing. Makes you really question our own received wisdom on America's role in different wars. They take actual historical events and truthful statements about interests and strategy and then combine those into an Alice in Wonderland narrative that is completely contrary to the motives of the actors at the time. Beautifully done propaganda.
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            • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              That's amazing. Makes you really question our own received wisdom on America's role in different wars. They take actual historical events and truthful statements about interests and strategy and then combine those into an Alice in Wonderland narrative that is completely contrary to the motives of the actors at the time. Beautifully done propaganda.
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              • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                Did you know that the UK and France failed to defend their ally Poland, causing World War II? From the official Twitter of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs:





                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                winners write the history......
                The losers are taking a hack at the typewriter as of late...
                “Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”

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                • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                  Originally posted by aparch View Post
                  Did you know that the UK and France failed to defend their ally Poland, causing World War II? From the official Twitter of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs:






                  The losers are taking a hack at the typewriter as of late...
                  Well, the losers were down 14-3 going into the 8th.... But then they put up 6 in the 8th and now have the bases loaded on 4 straight walks and no outs in the 9th

                  And this analogy really hits home the fact that the US really isn't top dog in the world anymore
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                  • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
                    Well, the losers were down 14-3 going into the 8th.... But then they put up 6 in the 8th and now have the bases loaded on 4 straight walks and no outs in the 9th

                    And this analogy really hits home the fact that the US really isn't top dog in the world anymore
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                    • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                      Originally posted by aparch View Post
                      US of A: The N.Y. Mets of International Diplomacy.
                      Sounds about right for our standing in the world.
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                      • Re: US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

                        Originally posted by aparch View Post
                        US of A: The N.Y. Mets of International Diplomacy.
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