Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

[5mn_Major]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

I'm sort of confused as to what you are suggesting from the perspective of where the conversation started. Business is where value is added in the pursuit of making stuff for consumers to consume...therefore, the best and brightest naturally gravitate to business. Is that the point you're making? Because, it's a non sequitur.

Not that the best and brightest are naturally attracted to business...but rather complexity and achievements highlight the superhuman outcomes that can be attained in business. For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing? He's not only pushing the envelop of technological application in numerous different fields with the potential of changing the course of human history, he's driving an array of wide reaching scientist breakthroughs himself.

[Kepler]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing?

Jesus, the fact that you're serious is so beyond appalling it's actually entertaining.

[5mn_Major]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Jesus, the fact that you're serious is so beyond appalling it's actually entertaining.

Relax. This is a message board and he asked me a question.

[unofan]

Relax. This is a message board and he asked me a question.

He said without a hint of irony given his postings in the religion thread...

[alfablue]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Not that the best and brightest are naturally attracted to business...but rather complexity and achievements highlight the superhuman outcomes that can be attained in business. For example...whether he ends up being successful, can you offer a single scientist effort on par with what E Musk is doing? He's not only pushing the envelop of technological application in numerous different fields with the potential of changing the course of human history, he's driving an array of wide reaching scientist breakthroughs himself.

No, he is not. He's only using the massive amount of money for a overpriced decent idea, and using that to put other people's ideas into production. And not that well, I should point out. The idea that Musk has fooled you into thinking he is more than he really is, well, that's interesting.

None of the ideas that are going into the Tesla cars nor the Space X rockets are his. They are the ideas of many others.

[joecct]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Apparently guys who stare at women's breasts live longer.

http://www.viralthread.com/staring-a...y-live-longer/

Anyone want to test the theory?

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Speaking of 5mn's emperor-god Elon Musk, he got roasted good the other day. Such a poor lil' snowflake.

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— Shannon E. Hubbell (@brundlefly) May 13, 2018

[Kepler]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Speaking of 5mn's emperor-god Elon Musk, he got roasted good the other day. Such a poor lil' snowflake.

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— Shannon E. Hubbell (@brundlefly) May 13, 2018

[5mn_Major]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

No, he is not. He's only using the massive amount of money for a overpriced decent idea, and using that to put other people's ideas into production. And not that well, I should point out.

None of the ideas that are going into the Tesla cars nor the Space X rockets are his. They are the ideas of many others.

Commercial innovators have many options. An idea must wait for someone to use it. The iPhone 4S incorporated 10,000s ideas plus 1 Steve Jobs.

Who invented digital media storage? Kane Kramer. Though he held the patent for a while, he couldn't afford to renew the worldwide patent on his idea. Because the patent had expired by the time MP3 players became a big business, he didn't make any money from his original idea when it started showing up in everyone's pocket in the 2000s.

Kramer's contribution was great. But the concept was largely irrelevant until Steve Jobs changed peoples lives with said concept...and as a result, he is a real world snowflake and you know more about him than you do some of your own cousins.

[Kepler]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Commercial innovators have many options. An idea must wait for someone to use it. The iPhone 4S incorporated 10,000s ideas plus 1 Steve Jobs.

Who invented digital media storage? Kane Kramer. Though he held the patent for a while, he couldn't afford to renew the worldwide it on his idea. Because the patent had expired by the time MP3 players became a big business, he didn't make any money from his original idea when it started showing up in everyone's pocket in the 2000s.

Kramer's contribution was great. But the concept was largely irrelevant until Steve Jobs changed peoples lives with said concept...and as a result, he is a real world snowflake and you know more about him than you do some of your own cousins.

By your ideology, F. Scott Fitzgerald didn't give the world Gatzby, his publisher did.

[5mn_Major]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

By your ideology, F. Scott Fitzgerald didn't give the world Gatzby, his publisher did.

Welcome back.

No. F Scott Fitzgerald gets all the credit and rightfully so. He created 100% of the end product that is consumed...a publisher just passed it through exactly as he created it. That is rarely the case with conventional corporate offerings as they incorporate from hundreds of ideas, from sometimes thousands of individuals.

Its actually more instructive to think of F Scott as an entrepreneur rather than a lab scientist - as he's combining a wide variety of inputs/ideas to put together a market ready product. The publisher is just him outsourcing production. And I'm quite confident that in his books, F Scott Fitzgerald did get 'ideas' from others that he used in his final published version. Note these 'contributors' do not get credit for

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Fitzgerald did not make a ready-to-consume product. How did it get from his mind or his manuscript to the public?

[Kepler]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

Welcome back.

No. F Scott Fitzgerald gets all the credit and rightfully so. He created 100% of the end product that is consumed...a publisher just passed it through exactly as he created it. That is rarely the case with conventional corporate offerings as they incorporate from hundreds of ideas, from sometimes thousands of individuals.

Its actually more instructive to think of F Scott as an entrepreneur rather than a lab scientist - as he's combining a wide variety of inputs/ideas to put together a market ready product. The publisher is just him outsourcing production. And I'm quite confident that in his books, F Scott Fitzgerald did get 'ideas' from others that he used in his final published version. Note these 'contributors' do not get credit for

An "entrepreneur" is like a movie producer. He has the money so his name gets put up in big letters. But the motive force is the money, not him. He's fungible. It could be anybody with the money.

In all of your examples you've been talking about the power of finance, not the contribution of the person with the money. We all know money matters. But the people with the money are completely arbitrary. The difference maker is the creator. The money he is financed with is essential. But the guy with that money is a nullity. Only an entire ideology built to suck up to those guys (and thus attract what is really of value, the money) has made them into Figures of Sanctification.

You know why universities have business schools? Because business people are vain and shallow and stupid and they give lots of money to universities. The Ur-businessman is Trump. Their money matters, and they take the value of their money to somehow be a reflection of their value, but it's exactly the opposite: their only worth is their checkbook.

[St. Clown]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

At the age of 16, Einstein tried to enter the Swiss Federal Polytechnic and was turned down. The point is that frequently scholastic standards are not determinant of applied intellect and ingenuity.

Einstein was turned down because, even though he was exceedingly smart at that age and even tutored other students, he often disagreed with methods and assertions of his professors. That simply wasn't done at the time, and he was punished for it with his academic marks. His grades suffered some, but Einstein was almost 100% proven correct later in his life when it came to the disagreements he had with those professors who stuck to the old-line rigidity in their math classes.

[Kepler]

Re: Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

The myth of Einstein being bad at school comes from two places.

1. It's a way for stupid people who did poorly at school to feel good about themselves. "See, hurr, grades don't matter Einstein did poorly in school hurr see?!"

There are a lot of those people.

2. Einstein did not originally have a complete grasp of the mathematical tools (Riemannian geometry and other stuff waaaaaaaaaaaay beyond me) to describe his higher level concepts because he was a physicist and not a mathematician. He needed help from this guy.