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  • dxmnkd316
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    For the gin drinkers out there, highly, highly recommend Lussa. A little harder to find than Vikre (also excellent, try the cedar) but in that same tier. Really good neat.

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  • Kepler
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    Straffe Hendrik Quad. Fuckin A.

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  • MinnesotaNorthStar
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    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
    Olde English HG 8000?! What am I supposed to play Edward Fortyhands with now? Colt?!!
    Mickey's will still be around...it's Mickey's Ice that is going away.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post

    Not exactly sure of that. Currently in retail and I still count 60-70 customers walking out with 30s of Busch Light; these people are in their mid 40s or later.
    Most younger drinkers get exposed to the variety of options that are available however. Those of us currently in our late 30s are really the 1st "drinking generation" to be exposed to the idea of craft/local brewing. Anyone in their 40s or older knew basically Bud/Coors/Miller and that is it. It's a game changer when you are looking to establish a life long brand relationship.

    Also you have to think of economics as well. People buying a 30-pack at Meijer probably have things to say about single cans of beer in the $2-5 range.

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  • MissThundercat
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

    Well the dudes that are attached to those names are quickly dying off.... The 21-24 crowd will drink whatever is on sale for $12.99 for a 30-pack. Companies are realizing that the college kids will "outgrow" the party swill and won't form a life long love with a particular brand.
    Not exactly sure of that. Currently in retail and I still count 60-70 customers walking out with 30s of Busch Light; these people are in their mid 40s or later.

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  • Kepler
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    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
    Olde English HG 8000?! What am I supposed to play Edward Fortyhands with now? Colt?!!
    Bacardi 151.

    Go big or go home.

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  • state of hockey
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    Olde English HG 8000?! What am I supposed to play Edward Fortyhands with now? Colt?!!

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Well the dudes that are attached to those names are quickly dying off.... The 21-24 crowd will drink whatever is on sale for $12.99 for a 30-pack. Companies are realizing that the college kids will "outgrow" the party swill and won't form a life long love with a particular brand.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    https://twitter.com/danshuftan/statu...123629059?s=21

    lotta old names on that list

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

    That doesn't make sense. St Paul is around 5k for a 180+ seat restaurant
    I might be confusing the liquor license fee with another. He’s been having issues with the city regarding a host of things surrounding his ability to add outdoor seating in response to COVID. That might’ve been the $29k.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post

    My BIL’s bar in Maplewood was charged almost $29k to renew his liquor license this year. I can’t imagine why the fee is for the big cities.
    That doesn't make sense. St Paul is around 5k for a 180+ seat restaurant

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  • St. Clown
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    I remember seeing tidbits about the non-alcohol bars in NYC and one here in Chicago pop up before the pandemic. It was definitely spun as a hipster thing for those venues (probably LGBTQ friendly, but not totally geared to them). If the owners can make a go of the place, good on them!

    I also wonder how much being booze free saves on the back end of the books... I'm sure liquor licenses and insurance are a good chunk of change...
    My BIL’s bar in Maplewood was charged almost $29k to renew his liquor license this year. I can’t imagine why the fee is for the big cities.

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    I remember seeing tidbits about the non-alcohol bars in NYC and one here in Chicago pop up before the pandemic. It was definitely spun as a hipster thing for those venues (probably LGBTQ friendly, but not totally geared to them). If the owners can make a go of the place, good on them!

    I also wonder how much being booze free saves on the back end of the books... I'm sure liquor licenses and insurance are a good chunk of change...
    Not much. If the cost of a license breaks your bank, you were never going to survive. (Except for PA, which is the dumbest possible law)
    https://ballotpedia.org/Liquor_licen...by_state,_2018

    Insurance, OTOH, I have no idea.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    I remember seeing tidbits about the non-alcohol bars in NYC and one here in Chicago pop up before the pandemic. It was definitely spun as a hipster thing for those venues (probably LGBTQ friendly, but not totally geared to them). If the owners can make a go of the place, good on them!

    I also wonder how much being booze free saves on the back end of the books... I'm sure liquor licenses and insurance are a good chunk of change...

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  • dxmnkd316
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    Originally posted by MissThundercat

    So, what's your solution?
    I don't have one. I'm saying you could be right and I'm acknowledging there may be a market for that night club.

    My original posts were based on general models of after dark establishments. I notice that a lot of places that don't sell alcohol in the evening tend to not do well. Most movie theaters I've been to prepandemic serve or were looking to add hooch, for example. Certainly not all businesses open after dark that don't serve alcohol will fail (Taco Bell, coffee shops, etc.) I've just never heard anyone ask "Do you know of any places we could go that don't serve alcohol?" But that's not my demo, so...

    There could be a market. There could be a huge market. I have no idea. and even if there's even a small market, it's absolutely possible that an establishment will do great if it can corner that market. Especially if they are good at whatever product or service they offer.

    The basic "research" I did after my post was that these establishments exist, have been growing in popularity in some respects, but struggle long term and often add alcohol as an option.

    But it's a growing segment. Whether it's here to stay is tbd. I wish the project the best of luck.

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