POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

[St. Clown]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

I'm not surprised that the 35% who back Trump think he's smart. I'm amazed that 60% of people think Trump is "strong."

Trump is obviously the weakest person to ever hold a significant office. He's a sniveling coward with an eggshell psyche. He has no principles, morals, or convictions, no loyalty, and no virtues of any sort. He is a witless weakling -- an amoeba that wriggles towards whatever spot in the goo is warmest and most soothing to his ego.

Donald Trump is weak.

Maybe they think he's strong and could throw a football over that mountain over there.

[Jimjamesak]

Maybe they think he's strong and could throw a football over that mountain over there.

Coulda gone to state if coach had just put him in...

[Kepler]

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Maybe they think he's strong and could throw a football over that mountain over there.

Reference? All I can come up with is Satchel Paige.

[St. Clown]

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Reference? All I can come up with is Satchel Paige.

Napoleon Dynamite.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

Napoleon Dynamite.

Ah. Thanks.

[Jimjamesak]

Napoleon Dynamite.

Video for reference.

[dxmnkd316]

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Napoleon Dynamite.

Reference? All I can come up with is Satchel Paige.

At least you were close.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

This is genuinely interesting.

I recommend the whole thing, but here it is in a nuthsell: family arguments about Dump aren't about Dump, they're personal arguments in disguise. So stay the f-ck away from the subject.

I'm not sure what that implies about actually running campaigns against the GOP in 2018 and against Dump himself in 2020. It may be that we need to find other things to talk about and just allow the poison of Dump to serve as a sort of ambient stink without actually lighting it on fire. This would also help us concentrate on our positive messages about economic and social justice -- give people a reason to vote for us rather than just against the Dump party -- something I think we all agree is vital.

[denver]

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Bend over Middle Class. The GOP is all in on the tax cut unlike Health Care. Also, Lindsey Graham is back to sucking off Donald Trump. He waffles back and forth more than anybody.

So true%% What is the deal with Lindsey Graham

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

This is genuinely interesting.

I recommend the whole thing, but here it is in a nuthsell: family arguments about Dump aren't about Dump, they're personal arguments in disguise. So stay the f-ck away from the subject.

I'm not sure what that implies about actually running campaigns against the GOP in 2018 and against Dump himself in 2020. It may be that we need to find other things to talk about and just allow the poison of Dump to serve as a sort of ambient stink without actually lighting it on fire. This would also help us concentrate on our positive messages about economic and social justice -- give people a reason to vote for us rather than just against the Dump party -- something I think we all agree is vital.

Disagree. Every single solitary Republican elected official AND voter needs to be completely lumped with Chump every chance a Dem gets. Why? Because if they weren't completely in favor of him personally and his agenda, they would have left the party long ago. They own him, and waiting around for the press to point out his failings and not bow down to the False Equivalency gods is a strategic blunder and a waste of time. You backed Trump? You own him, and don't get upset when I remind you of it even if it is at Thanksgiving!

Now get out there and spread The Word, Brother Kepler.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Follow up on the girl that decided to steal a MAGA hat and try to report it to student life: https://www.infowars.com/update-maga...charges-filed/

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

Follow up on the girl that decided to steal a MAGA hat and try to report it to student life: https://www.infowars.com/update-maga...charges-filed/

Tell Vlady Putin we all said hi.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.23 - Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross

Tell Vlady Putin we all said hi.

Quoting the derp defeats the purpose of Ignore.

Please do not quote the derp.

[Kepler]

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Disagree. Every single solitary Republican elected official AND voter needs to be completely lumped with Chump every chance a Dem gets. Why? Because if they weren't completely in favor of him personally and his agenda, they would have left the party long ago. They own him, and waiting around for the press to point out his failings and not bow down to the False Equivalency gods is a strategic blunder and a waste of time. You backed Trump? You own him, and don't get upset when I remind you of it even if it is at Thanksgiving!

Now get out there and spread The Word, Brother Kepler.

Association is one thing. Direct confrontation will only drive the splinter deeper in.

Figure a third of the country has adopted Dump as their personal middle finger to us. They'll default on their mortgage and let their children die of diphtheria as long as we're unhappy. They are beyond help

A third of the country reads the papers -- hell, can read at all -- and loathes Dump. We'll vote in every election to rid ourselves of this inept, unfit loser.

The other third are the ones who matter. A lot of them live in Central PA and smell like Dumpies -- low education, low SES, white. They like country music and have an instinctively racist reaction to the "N. F. L." But they are also vaguely aware that Dump is a con man and he has no interest in their well-being. They are not lost.

So we can reach them with aspirational and positive messaging. But hammering at them about Dump won't separate them from Dump, they will fall back into the gravity well for being challenged on cultural identity.

The only people we would get mileage out of by ragging on Dump are already with us.

So Dump helps us as ambient noise, but not if we directly attack him. Just run as if he didn't exist, and let his awfulness creates waves that help push people towards us.

This is the evil SF creature who eats energy: if we fire weapons at it, it only gets stronger.

[Rover]

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Yeah, I just don't think that's going to work. Sitting around and waiting for people to realize what's going on is sorta what the Kerry campaign did, and that didn't turn out too well. I don't think 33% of the country is on the fence. I doubt its more than 2-3% regarding Trump. Getting the people who are already with us to VOTE is the trick. That requires something called "Trump Shaming" to unite the left in one common battle - crush every idiot who votes with or for Chump unless of course they admit their error. I have little faith people will come to this conclusion on their one.