POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

[Drew S.]

I'll play along. In the wake of the Charlottesville incident, where a white supremacist ran over a peaceful protestor (there's no evidence the woman is question was doing anything violent in any way), coming out and saying you denounce extremism on both sides give cover to the white supremacists. That somehow a left winger committed an equal act of violence, so everybody's bad. That's why you and Trump and anybody else taking this position is getting blasted although I don't recall you saying there are good people too on both sides, implying that there are good neo-Nazis something I never thought I'd hear a President say in my lifetime.

You'd get the same reaction in the wake of the Dylan Root mass murder, where if you said "yeah I denounce that as well as any black on black violence in Chicago". Pairing that together = giving cover to the criminal in that particular incident.

I agree with you in your example if that was what was happening. The people were actually clashing together though. It wasn't even two separate cities on the same day.

I think you and a lot others are either trying to feed your narrative or reinforce your views on Trump voters or whatever. Can we agree that extremism(and white supremacy without question falls into this) and diviseivness are not good for our country? That is the view me, and I'm sure many others, have taken with regard to what happened last Saturday.

[mookie1995]

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Moving on, the point that these people aren't taking over is stupid.

when you have the presidency, isn't that by definition TAKING OVER?

the buck stops, where?

and islamic terrorists ain't taking over the country . mookie is keeping them all happy here lot of fine people on this side

they give out free water in front of every mosque. luckily there is one every other bldg. best to stay hydrated in the heat! side benefit is one gets to look at the buildings. absolutely beautiful to tell the truth. very impressive.

[DisplacedCornellian]

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"...but he is NOT a porn star."

Wait for the pee pee tape...

[burd]

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I agree with you in your example if that was what was happening. The people were actually clashing together though. It wasn't even two separate cities on the same day.

I think you and a lot others are either trying to feed your narrative or reinforce your views on Trump voters or whatever. Can we agree that extremism(and white supremacy without question falls into this) and diviseivness are not good for our country? That is the view me, and I'm sure many others, have taken with regard to what happened last Saturday.

We also know those groups have been very open about the fact that they feel inspired by Trump, something that does not surprise most of us.

[mookie1995]

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Yes, this. The DNC needs to be pushing this, pushing it hard. The Republican Party is sympathetic to the Nazi-esque ideals. There are Nazi flag waving people that Trump has called "very fine people." .

push it why? so they lose by a bigger margin next time??

[Rover]

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I agree with you in your example if that was what was happening. The people were actually clashing together though. It wasn't even two separate cities on the same day.

I think you and a lot others are either trying to feed your narrative or reinforce your views on Trump voters or whatever. Can we agree that extremism(and white supremacy without question falls into this) and diviseivness are not good for our country? That is the view me, and I'm sure many others, have taken with regard to what happened last Saturday.

We can, but again you're still giving cover over that incident. One side was protesting that whites are a superior race. The other side was opposing that viewpoint. They aren't equally at fault here. White supremacists are reprehensible. Standing up to them is the right thing to do. The white supremacists are the extremists. The people protesting them aren't. That's what I think you're losing sight of here. Unless you think those two are equal in which case you need to come out and say it.

[mookie1995]

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I don't understand how if you dislike extremists on both sides that means you align with those on the right. I'd add that by saying you don't care for either it's not the same as saying they are both equal in any way. That's something those on the left are making up.

nothing is funny than "alt left".

like there can be a farther, alternative to left than left

[Rover]

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push it why? so they lose by a bigger margin next time??

To get lazy a ss lefties off their rear-ends to vote Democratic even if said Dem candidates aren't advocating 50's era tax brackets and single payer?

[mookie1995]

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We can, but again you're still giving cover over that incident. One side was protesting that whites are a superior race. The other side was opposing that viewpoint. They aren't equally at fault here. White supremacists are reprehensible. Standing up to them is the right thing to do. The white supremacists are the extremists. The people protesting them aren't. That's what I think you're losing sight of here. Unless you think those two are equal in which case you need to come out and say it.

one side was saying whites are superior. the other says we know that and love the darkies and want to take care of them.


where's the difference?

rich people play "one" side off "another" so nobody goes after them. black v white. christian v muslim. straight v gay. life v choice.
anything to create noise and divert attention. been going on since people with the most rocks were the rich. ain't changing anytime soon.

[mookie1995]

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"...but he is NOT a porn star."

too bad kobe tai can't run for president

[Rover]

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one side was saying whites are superior. the other says we know that and love the darkies and want to take care of them.


where's the difference?

rich people play "one" side off "another" so nobody goes after them. black v white. christian v muslim. straight v gay. life v choice.
anything to create noise and divert attention. been going on since people with the most rocks were the rich. ain't changing anytime soon.

Sorta irrelevant tangent but to your first question one are extremist nutbags who will kill to push their white only view of the country. The other side opposes their racist views but didn't kill anybody.

That's a pretty important difference.

[mookie1995]

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To get lazy a ss lefties off their rear-ends to vote Democratic even if said Dem candidates aren't advocating 50's era tax brackets and single payer?

rover ain't pretending union dems like coloreds anymore than white folk in management, is he????

they just be too embarrassed to tell a pollsters that they feel that way, that's all.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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trump is a number of things: Racist. Mentally ill. Pathological liar. Stupid. The last one is what worries me most.

While tepid, more and more republicans are finding reasons to speak out against him and even occasionally condemn his words. But since trump is stupid, he doubles down on the stupid things. This will lead to more republicans feeling safe enough to condemn him. And Robert Mueller has not abandoned his investigation. The walls are probably closing in on trump. And that's where his stupidity worries me most.

If the time comes where it is no longer tenable for him to remain in office, does anyone think he is going to go easily? One would hope that somewhere deep inside, enough people in enough positions of power will be able to do what is best for our constitution. The jury is still out on that though. But if trump is forced to leave, before he goes, I could see him doing something incredibly stupid, like urging his mouth breathing supporters to take up arms to protect his seat in the Oval Office. In fact I am convinced that would happen. And while no match for a military that would be called into action by those left in charge, the damage they would do would be unlike anything we've seen in this country since the Civil War.

trump is stupid. Stupid enough to try this. It would be nice if enough of those so-called patriotic republicans in D.C. right now would find a way to get rid of trump before those who would take up arms to protect him from ouster get any more organized.

Just carpet bomb West Virginia from the Stone Age back to the Miocene Era. Problem solved.

[Drew S.]

We can, but again you're still giving cover over that incident. One side was protesting that whites are a superior race. The other side was opposing that viewpoint. They aren't equally at fault here. White supremacists are reprehensible. Standing up to them is the right thing to do. The white supremacists are the extremists. The people protesting them aren't. That's what I think you're losing sight of here. Unless you think those two are equal in which case you need to come out and say it.

I've posted this a few times, and perhaps you've missed it, but I'm not saying they are the same in any way. There were likely many more bad people on the right. That doesn't excuse whatever bad people there were on the left though. I hate and am completely disgusted by the neo-nazis, that doesn't mean I want to support whatever wacky agenda the alt-left is pushing(and it's more than just countering the neo-nazis.) I'll add this one more time so were crystal clear, I'm acknowledging not all counter protestors were part of alt-left and are decent folk.

[mookie1995]

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Sorta irrelevant tangent but to your first question one are extremist nutbags who will kill to push their white only view of the country. The other side opposes their racist views but didn't kill anybody.

That's a pretty important difference.

the other side mostly feels the same way but.....
the other side will make funny "jokes" with their friends and then get embarrassed when you call them out on it.
the other side feels guilty inside but votes their conscious when they get in the booth.
the other side crosses the street when they are walking and see a brother coming the other way.
the other side picks up their step in the parking lot and holds the key tight to their chest to spring forward if needed.
the other side moves to lexington when buses bring brothers into their neighborhood.
the other side wishes this to be kept quiet so the uppity ones don't get mad.

stop it.
the % of people in the us who don't see color first are probably <8%