POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

[Drew S.]

Then Hillary should've beaten Trump in a landslide, because she's essentially a female version of John Kerry.

Yet that didn't happen. I wonder why...

That election happened before Trump was actually president. Unless there is a substantial turnaround Trump has shown he isn't a good president.

[French Rage]

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LOL: https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/900158567461900288

[French Rage]

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McAuliffe

- did all the right actions in Charlottesville for his base
- is Governor of a key state that needs to go blue for a D to win
- would have the Clinton machine behind him

Don't disregard him.

McAuliffe only won VA because the GOP found an even worse candidate to run. To go further, he only won the primary because no one else wanted it. He's the placeholder of all placeholders. Literally a sack of wet flour would have been as acceptable as long as it kept The Cooch out of the Governor's mansion.

[unofan]

That election happened before Trump was actually president. Unless there is a substantial turnaround Trump has shown he isn't a good president.

Which was readily apparent beforehand, so pardon me if I don't believe the blinders are coming off unless and until it actually happens.

[Handyman]

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Small sample size so far. I like her ambition and intelligence. I like that she was aggressive during the Sessions hearings. She's "Obama with Boobs" (and I like boobs) and that is my explanation for the hype.

On the downside she has a corporate streak and, well, she's Obama with boobs: she'll sell out the hindmost to court the fat wallet donors. She's not going to reverse the rush to lethal inequality in any significant way; she'll nibble around the edges or possibly even exacerbate it like every Democrat since JFK.

Kamala Harris vs Gavin Newsom is shaping up to be a qualifier for the nomination frontrunner. I'm happy with that -- they seem like solid representatives of the moderate and liberal wings, respectively. They're both smart and ruthless campaigners and they're both telegenic and charismatic which is good for attracting the lofos. And they're both under 900 years old, which is a nice change for the Methuselah Party.

I am cautiously optimistic. Rover is gonna LOVE her.

As much as I wish he would I dont see any chance Newsom runs. He is running for Governor of California and he isnt going to leave that after 2 years to run for President. And Kamala Harris has zero chance because A) she is a woman and B) she dares have an opinion. The Left has already started to knock her down and will do to her what they did to Hillary.

[Kepler]

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McAuliffe only won VA because the GOP found an even worse candidate to run. To go further, he only won the primary because no one else wanted it. He's the placeholder of all placeholders. Literally a sack of wet flour would have been as acceptable as long as it kept The Cooch out of the Governor's mansion.

It was close, though. Too close. He basically beat Sarah Palin. It was a close call and the Libertarian won it for him.

[Drew S.]

It was close, though. Too close. He basically beat Sarah Palin. It was a close call.

The libertarian actually got him over the line. I think the primary would be tougher for him than the general election.

[ScoobyDoo]

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And Kamala Harris has zero chance because A) she is a woman and B) she dares have an opinion. The Left has already started to knock her down and will do to her what they did to Hillary.

^^^^^^^

[French Rage]

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The libertarian actually got him over the line. I think the primary would be tougher for him than the general election.

Sorry, because it took 3rd party votes for him to beat a far-right nutjob in a moderate purple state, you think he'll cruise in a national general election?

[Kepler]

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The libertarian actually got him over the line. I think the primary would be tougher for him than the general election.

He's one of those candidates who looks great from the other side. Like how Democrats always thought Jack Kemp would make a good candidate for the GOP, or Republicans always thought Evan Bayh would make a great one for the Dems.

The things about a candidate that make them acceptable to the opposition party are exactly the things that make them a terrible candidate in the primaries. Obviously the opposition respect an opponent who is just Them Lite.

[Drew S.]

Sorry, because it took 3rd party votes for him to beat a far-right nutjob in a moderate purple state, you think he'll cruise in a national general election?

Against Trump, absolutely. The powers that be in the Democratic Party love him, he used to run it back in the day. He would play very well in the states like PA, MI, and WI. I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled off FL and NC as well. Democrats need to avoid the identity candidate(Harris) and socialist candidate(Bernie). Maybe there are other McAullife types, but I think he is the one who is tightest with the democratic leadership.

[Kepler]

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As much as I wish he would I dont see any chance Newsom runs. He is running for Governor of California and he isnt going to leave that after 2 years to run for President.

Newsom is a Young Man in a Hurry. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't do just that. After all we assume Harris will do exactly that with the Senate.

And Kamala Harris has zero chance because A) she is a woman and B) she dares have an opinion. The Left has already started to knock her down and will do to her what they did to Hillary.

Nobody's knocking Harris down yet and the idea that Democrats are going to bias against an opinionated woman is inane. Hillary may have picked up votes on identity but she lost them on the merits.

If you want to see just how far identity can get you in the Democratic party look at Tulsi Gabbard. She's awful -- I know this personally -- and yet everybody has their panties in a bunch over her because she's a woman, brown(ish), and supposedly a Hindu (actually a crazy Hare Krishna offshoot personality cult run by a con artist named Chris Butler). But good god mention her on Kos and the tears of joy fall like rain.

[Drew S.]

He's one of those candidates who looks great from the other side. Like how Democrats always thought Jack Kemp would make a good candidate for the GOP, or Republicans always thought Evan Bayh would make a great one for the Dems.

The things about a candidate that make them acceptable to the opposition party are exactly the things that make them a terrible candidate in the primaries. Obviously the opposition respect an opponent who is just Them Lite.

LOL, guilty as charged on Evan Bayh! I still wonder why he didn't get more support. Yours is a point well taken.

[Handyman]

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After Charlottesville McAuliffe has the most name recognition.
Only the deep party wonks know the other potential names right now.

Did you read that in the Washington Examiner? McAuliffe wouldnt make it out of the Primaries and he certainly wouldnt beat Trump. He is Hillary without a pantsuit.

[Kepler]

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LOL, guilty as charged on Evan Bayh! I still wonder why he didn't get more support. Yours is a point well taken.

We all do it. I was the same way with Bill Weld.