POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

[SJHovey]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

So, you feel personally threatened by an anti-Fascist movement.

Huh.

I'd personally feel threatened by the Red Hat Society if they were throwing rocks at me.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

No. He was wrong about one thing. There was no good people on the Pro-Statue side. You associate with those people you're pure evil drip slime and you need help. And may God help them get whatever help they need.

Think about the stuff Patman has posted over the years. Then apply Occam's razor. That 33% has to come from somewhere.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

I'd personally feel threatened by the Red Hat Society if they were throwing rocks at me.

My point exactly.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Yes, trump pandered to them in the primaries.

When did he pander to them? He disavowed them about 20 times during the campaign alone!

[bronconick]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Now that the Manufacturing Council is dissolved, is it true that regional governors will have direct control over their territories and fear will keep the local systems in line?

"Trump made the announcement on Twitter, less than an hour after one of the groups was said to be planning to inform the White House that it would break up."

So he only fired the Manufacturing Council after the Advisory Board voted to dissolve.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

"Trump made the announcement on Twitter, less than an hour after one of the groups was said to be planning to inform the White House that it would break up."

So he only fired the Manufacturing Council after the Advisory Board voted to dissolve.

"You can't fire me, I quit!"

"You can't break up with me, I'm breaking up with you!"

What a childish P.O.S.

[JF_Gophers]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

The only piece I don't get about this back and forth is why violence is generally condoned when it suits the cause of the person, be it liberal, conservative, or POS Nazi lovers.

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Fact is, I don't need a "gotcha". President trump has been correct in his comments. The rest of you will make yourselves look bad in your own time. This has been a game of more moral than thou and so much reading between the lines that you're seeing in visual grains of paper pulp. Just admit there's a violent left and they are a problem to free speech and assembly. It won't be hard, you know you can do it. That doesn't negate Richard spencer being a scumbucket.

How is he right? When he blames "all" sides- what does he mean by that?

It looked to me that there were some minor skirmishes, but it was the WLM group that took it to the next level.

It's can't be that mocking the other group is a bad thing- dump has clearly opened that up, since he mocks others at will. So the WLM group should be able to take some simple words and burning of their flag.

Who is "all sides"?

There is no moral equivalent to a group of people demanding that they be treated equally than one that wants the opposite. Not even close. And it was the latter that actually used a weapon.

And by "violent left"- who do you bin into that? The Antifa, BLM, GayPride? Who?

[St. Clown]

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I'd personally feel threatened by the Red Hat Society if they were throwing rocks at me.

My point exactly.

People and groups don't always have the greatest aim. You could be someone's greatest teammate, and still you could get hit by a wild pitch while sitting in the dugout.

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

The only piece I don't get about this back and forth is why violence is generally condoned when it suits the cause of the person, be it liberal, conservative, or POS Nazi lovers.

Condoned? Yeah, it's condoned all right.

“I’m sorta glad that them people got hit and I’m glad that girl died,” Moore said in a voicemail to WBTV. “They were a bunch of Communists out there protesting against somebody’s freedom of speech, so it doesn’t bother me that they got hurt at all.”

“I think we’re going to see more stuff like this happening at white nationalist events,” Moore warned.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...#storylink=cpy

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

By my unofficial count:

# of Trump cabinet officials threatening to resign over white supremacy coddling: NONE
# of GOP elected officials threatening to leave party over same issue: NONE
# of GOP congresscritters trying to hold hearing to investigate white supremacy groups: NONE

But, a few of them sent out a tweet, so I guess its all okay...

[French Rage]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

By my unofficial count:

# of Trump cabinet officials threatening to resign over white supremacy coddling: NONE
# of GOP elected officials threatening to leave party over same issue: NONE
# of GOP congresscritters trying to hold hearing to investigate white supremacy groups: NONE

But, a few of them sent out a tweet, so I guess its all okay...

Ben Carson likes the statues, because apparently one time a statue of Robert E Lee came to life and declared him the most honest Yale student of all time. (That joke is not completely made up, is the weird part.)

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

The only piece I don't get about this back and forth is why violence is generally condoned when it suits the cause of the person, be it liberal, conservative, or POS Nazi lovers.

Who is condoning violence, aside from maybe George Soros and his support of Anti-Fa? Or are you still putting your fingers in your ears when the President condemns all violence?

[aparch]

By my unofficial count:

# of Trump cabinet officials threatening to resign over white supremacy coddling: NONE
# of GOP elected officials threatening to leave party over same issue: NONE
# of GOP congresscritters trying to hold hearing to investigate white supremacy groups: NONE

But, a few of them sent out a tweet, so I guess its all okay...

This!

There should be teeth gnashing and sweaty armpits from the RNC heads on down on what to do. They hitched their wagon to Trump, got what they wanted, and now have to deal with Trump driving the wagon or pulling the pin and veering wildly away from Trump.

So far, they seem content where their burro is leading them.

Realistically, this would be a good time to explore breaking away from the RNC. Approaching moderate donors and financiers about a middle ground. Distancing themselves from where their party is headed.

But we won't see that. We'll see the RNC embrace the attention.

I'm calling it now, R's win more seats in 2018. But only because Republicans will lip service that they won't be like the outliers, only to continue to follow party lines.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

How is he right? When he blames "all" sides- what does he mean by that?

It looked to me that there were some minor skirmishes, but it was the WLM group that took it to the next level.

It's can't be that mocking the other group is a bad thing- dump has clearly opened that up, since he mocks others at will. So the WLM group should be able to take some simple words and burning of their flag.

Who is "all sides"?

There is no moral equivalent to a group of people demanding that they be treated equally than one that wants the opposite. Not even close. And it was the latter that actually used a weapon.

And by "violent left"- who do you bin into that? The Antifa, BLM, GayPride? Who?

For someone who is college educated, you really are dumb. All sides means exactly what it says. All sides. They all disintegrated into violence. That disintegration to violence is unacceptable, no matter who started it, who finished it, nor what side you support or loathe. All President Trump wants is peace, but he will stand up to anyone who doesn't want peace. And the gas-lighting is getting incredibly old.