POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Still, It would be interesting to ask for some real specifics about draining the swamp. Not some nebulous blame game over someone being lazy.

The swamp is the money. Drain the money, drain the swamp. Do nothing about the money and all other actions will be futile.

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

"Local government for economics, federal government for social issues"
"Hang all Demoncrat and GOP establishment pols, whom I blame for my sh*tty life."
"Tyranny by white minority"

And above all else:

"Stickin' it to the libs for being right"

Still, It would be interesting to ask for some real specifics about draining the swamp. Not some nebulous blame game over someone being lazy.

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Well... this same guy told me that trumpy "is probably the smartest president we've ever had" so...

did you ever bother to ask how that is going to fix anything?

NOT putting people into place means nothing changes. Nobody is there to change the operating rules or directions, so nothing can change. Has anyone explained this little problem to that concept?

Well, except for the Fake News agencies. Who are actually very correct, again. I work with rules around the Greenhouse Gas laws, and unless something is done to UNDO them, they stay in place. Putting nobody in place for the EPA does not give any direction to UNDO the rules. So it solves nothing. Other than making government a whole lot less efficient.

[alfablue]

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Doesn't everyone who goes to DC? I really think having Congress move around the country would help a lot, despite the logistical challenges.

If congress moves around, what would stop the lobbyists from following them around??? That makes zero sense- it's not as if the people doing the lobbying don't have means. Heck, many of them are local, too.

I just don't see that solving anything, other than spending even more money running the government.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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So here's a dumb question- does anyone really know what people mean by "draining the swap"?

"Local government for economics, federal government for social issues"
"Hang all Demoncrat and GOP establishment pols, whom I blame for my sh*tty life."
"Tyranny by white minority"

And above all else:

"Stickin' it to the libs for being right"

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Like the SNL skit where Reagan did all the stuff in private with the staff, but when a public person came in he changed to "all shucks"

That was Phil Hartman Mookie perhaps recalls....

One of the greatest SNL bits of all time.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Seriously, he looked for like half a second.

He did it six different times that the cameras caught.

[Drew S.]

but this president is doing exactly the same thing. And they are still happy he is "draining" - so it doesn't seem to be that.

And it's funny that we worry about special interests, but want the big corporations to have a direct advertising line, as corporations are allowed to have "free speech". THAT message has far more impact than special interests- as that's how people get elected. They are the sources of most of the fear mongering messages about legislation.

Doesn't everyone who goes to DC? I really think having Congress move around the country would help a lot, despite the logistical challenges.

[mookie1995]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

But he's not even come close to introducing legislation about that.

And his cabinet is largely a group of corporate lobbyists.

Still, I'd like to hear some specific measures that we know the swamp is being drained. Right now, dump can do nothing and people still think he's making progress.

yes, nothing is being done other than saying IT is being drained at this time. do as i say, not as i do.

[geezer]

I don't see how that drains anything, though. The really hard part about that is if you took the government jobs out, the economy would tank. Right now, without the positions filled, there are a lot of people on the payroll without direction. Nothing can be done OR undone without people assigned to work on it.

Well... this same guy told me that trumpy "is probably the smartest president we've ever had" so...

[alfablue]

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thought draining was keeping the same recycled people from moving into the K street jobs as well as disallowing gov workers to move into lobbyist jobs. not really sure that is in fact the case now, but that was the intended meaning.

But he's not even come close to introducing legislation about that.

And his cabinet is largely a group of corporate lobbyists.

Still, I'd like to hear some specific measures that we know the swamp is being drained. Right now, dump can do nothing and people still think he's making progress.

[alfablue]

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I don't think it's necessarily corruption. It seems to me that a lot of politicians have the best of inentions when they run, but as soon as they get to DC give in to special interests. It would be interesting to know what role social pressure plays in the decisions legislators make. I almost think we would be better off in congress moved around the country instead of always meeting in DC.

but this president is doing exactly the same thing. And they are still happy he is "draining" - so it doesn't seem to be that.

And it's funny that we worry about special interests, but want the big corporations to have a direct advertising line, as corporations are allowed to have "free speech". THAT message has far more impact than special interests- as that's how people get elected. They are the sources of most of the fear mongering messages about legislation.

[alfablue]

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It's a stretch but one guy told me he is draining the swamp by leaving vacancies unfilled in the bureaucracy. As for what people want from Trump, it's to p. o. Liberals by ANY means. The same guy told me he can judge trumpy's overall success simply by how angry "the media" is.

I don't see how that drains anything, though. The really hard part about that is if you took the government jobs out, the economy would tank. Right now, without the positions filled, there are a lot of people on the payroll without direction. Nothing can be done OR undone without people assigned to work on it.

As for making the media mad- that's really funny- dump is far, far angrier at the media than the reverse. I would say that the media is MORE determined to find info, since he tries to tell us that they are all lying. Which I doubt- given the the equal messages from diverse locations. The only ones who play to dump's message is Faux, Britebart, and Russian Tass.

[mookie1995]

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It's a stretch but one guy told me he is draining the swamp by leaving vacancies unfilled in the bureaucracy. As for what people want from Trump, it's to p. o. Liberals by ANY means. The same guy told me he can judge trumpy's overall success simply by how angry "the media" is.

thought draining was keeping the same recycled people from moving into the K street jobs as well as disallowing gov workers to move into lobbyist jobs. not really sure that is in fact the case now, but that was the intended meaning.

[Rover]

Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

Like the SNL skit where Reagan did all the stuff in private with the staff, but when a public person came in he changed to "all shucks"

That was Phil Hartman Mookie perhaps recalls....

That was hilarious.