Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
And where are we going to get the money for that?
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by E.J. Smith View Post3 words for you - Publicly funded elections
No matter how good and well intentioned you are, it's almost a constant cycle of fundraising to hold onto your seat. That just naturally leads to gravitating towards whoever has the money - which for the most part are the lobbyists. For some it leads to outright corruption, but even for the best of them it leads to a slow corrosion of principles. Take all the money, corruption, fundraising, influence out of it by publicly funding elections. Everyone has the same amount, let's see what you do with it, like a salary cap in sports.
And it goes without saying that Citizens United needs to overturned as part of this change.
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostIf you oppose Trump you're opposing God.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by Kepler View PostIf you oppose Trump you're opposing God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
3 words for you - Publicly funded elections
No matter how good and well intentioned you are, it's almost a constant cycle of fundraising to hold onto your seat. That just naturally leads to gravitating towards whoever has the money - which for the most part are the lobbyists. For some it leads to outright corruption, but even for the best of them it leads to a slow corrosion of principles. Take all the money, corruption, fundraising, influence out of it by publicly funding elections. Everyone has the same amount, let's see what you do with it, like a salary cap in sports.
And it goes without saying that Citizens United needs to overturned as part of this change.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by Kepler View PostIf you oppose Trump you're opposing God.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostI had an Uber driver in CT tell me that he thinks we should go back to the days when representatives and Senators served one term, then went back home and returned to private enterprise. No more consecutive terms.Last edited by Kepler; 08-22-2017, 09:30 AM.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View PostI do know at one time Senators were appointed, not elected.
Before the adoption of the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913, Senators were elected by the individual state legislatures. Problems with repeated vacant seats due to the inability of a legislature to elect senators, intrastate political struggles, and even bribery and intimidation had gradually led to a growing movement to amend the Constitution to allow for the direct election of senators.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostI had an Uber driver in CT tell me that he thinks we should go back to the days when representatives and Senators served one term, then went back home and returned to private enterprise. No more consecutive terms.
Even in the 19th century, did that ever really happen? Or is it just some fantasy of "conservative libertarians"?
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by Kepler View PostHe did it six different times that the cameras caught.
ETA: This just all comes off like putting dijon on a nothingburger.Last edited by dxmnkd316; 08-22-2017, 09:47 AM.
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostDoesn't everyone who goes to DC? I really think having Congress move around the country would help a lot, despite the logistical challenges.
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Re: POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25
Originally posted by alfablue View PostStill, It would be interesting to ask for some real specifics about draining the swamp. Not some nebulous blame game over someone being lazy.
Even in the 19th century, did that ever really happen? Or is it just some fantasy of "conservative libertarians"?
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