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  • #31
    Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Is Trump the magician or just the distracting hand. That is the question.
    In your hypothesis he's just one of the inanimate props.

    It is certainly appealing. RW Media already uses Dump this way as a reactive halfwit to goose their ratings and get the orcs in a lather. They spend a cycle reporting on an "attack" on him, he immediately grabs his rattle, and then they have two more cycles reporting his response and then the reaction to that. Since the reaction is bound to include another "attack," the Echo Chamber has invented perpetual motion.
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    • #32
      Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
      As soon as you see Trump as merely the distraction it gets really, um, interesting, doesn't it.
      Posters have been saying since the election that it is congress, not trump, that is the real danger here and should be watched. But to suggest that that it's an intentional distraction by either trump or his handlers is just a denial of their natural idiocy, whether it's Bannon or Trump.

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      • #33
        Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        In your hypothesis he's just one of the inanimate props.
        A means to an end.
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        • #34
          Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

          Remember when Trump proposed privatizing the Air Traffic Control System during infrastructure week? I did. In fact he had one of his fake signing ceremonies when he did it.


          A Senate panel approved a Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization bill without any provision calling for air-traffic control privatization, seemingly ending prospects for congressional passage of the proposal this year.

          The measure approved Thursday by the Senate Commerce Committee indefinitely postpones consideration of stripping authority from the FAA over controllers and air-traffic modernization efforts, a change supported by House Republicans and the White House.
          https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-...tem-1498775327


          It's dead already.
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          • #35
            Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

            Originally posted by burd View Post
            Posters have been saying since the election that it is congress, not trump, that is the real danger here and should be watched. But to suggest that that it's an intentional distraction by either trump or his handlers is just a denial of their natural idiocy, whether it's Bannon or Trump.
            I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.

            It's obviously not an intentional distraction by Dump. He's just a useful idiot.

            Bannon is a slightly easier sell but when you stop and look at some of the stuff Bannon actually does appear to believe in then the question as to whether he is or is not manipulating Dump becomes moot -- if Bannon is to be taken at his word about what he's trying to accomplish he is too moronic to consider seriously.

            It does leave the possibility that Bannon is like Jones and is merely a stage performer who has found a product. Possible. Breitbart has made him money. But IINM Bannon came from Wall Street were he would have made far more fleecing far more wealthy rubes.

            So that leaves open that Trump and Bannon are just dupes of Ryan et al, who have the real agenda, their usual revolting neofeudal dictatorship. Certainly they always point to that as their magnetic north. Certainly they deceive and dissemble to achieve their aims. But are they capable enough to lead Dump by that narcissistic ring in his nose?

            I think it's worth keeping in mind, anyway.
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            • #36
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              During my long drive home a few days ago, I had this thought. Does POTUS #46 get his/her face carved on Mt. Rushmore during the term in office, or will the public be willing to wait until after the term is at least over? I mean seriously, how good are you going to look as #46? Won't #46 pretty much be able to order the mint to print c-notes with their own likeness on them and have them delivered by the bale to the White House, with the media and public delivering a collective "whatever" after #45?
              That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                Since the Mika tweet ...

                Healthcare is off the front page.
                MIKAJOE response in WaPo is everywhere; media is fixated.
                Everyone missed the South Korean president at the White House this morning*.
                The travel ban has formally kicked in.
                The House passed "Kate's Law".
                The House passed the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act.


                Watch the magician's other hand.


                *Remember South Korea? They're the ones that'll first feel Krazy Kim's North Korean road show.
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                • #38
                  Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                  Healthcare is off the front page.
                  MIKAJOE response in WaPo is everywhere; media is fixated.
                  Everyone missed the South Korean president at the White House this morning*.
                  The travel ban has formally kicked in.
                  The House passed "Kate's Law".
                  The House passed the No Sanctuary for Criminals Act.
                  1. Health Care is a disaster and no one is really interested in fixing it on the GOP side. So, who cares? We voted for a no solution solution to the problem.
                  2. Media is not fixated. They're just reporting.
                  3. No they didn't.
                  4. So? That's what everyone voted for? Don't like it vote.
                  5. So? That's what everyone voted for? Don't like it vote.
                  6. So? That's what everyone voted for? Don't like it vote.
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                  • #39
                    Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.

                    It's obviously not an intentional distraction by Dump. He's just a useful idiot.

                    Bannon is a slightly easier sell but when you stop and look at some of the stuff Bannon actually does appear to believe in then the question as to whether he is or is not manipulating Dump becomes moot -- if Bannon is to be taken at his word about what he's trying to accomplish he is too moronic to consider seriously.

                    It does leave the possibility that Bannon is like Jones and is merely a stage performer who has found a product. Possible. Breitbart has made him money. But IINM Bannon came from Wall Street were he would have much far more fleecing far more wealthy rubes.

                    So that leaves open that Trump and Bannon are just dupes of Ryan et al, who have the real agenda, their usual revolting neofeudal dictatorship. Certainly they always point to that as their magnetic north. Certainly they deceive and dissemble to achieve their aims. But are they capable enough to lead Dump by that narcissistic ring in his nose?

                    I think it's worth keeping in mind, anyway.
                    I have no problem believing that those on the hill are manipulating an outcome in a reactive sort of way. But I'm not convinced the GOP has ever been able to lead Trump or his strongest supporters by the nose. He has easy to predict triggers, though, I'll give you that.
                    Last edited by burd; 06-30-2017, 02:21 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      During my long drive home a few days ago, I had this thought. Does POTUS #46 get his/her face carved on Mt. Rushmore during the term in office, or will the public be willing to wait until after the term is at least over? I mean seriously, how good are you going to look as #46? Won't #46 pretty much be able to order the mint to print c-notes with their own likeness on them and have them delivered by the bale to the White House, with the media and public delivering a collective "whatever" after #45?
                      Obama came after Dubya. Obama was hated by a third of the country. Not opposed. Hated.

                      If 46 is a D who beats Dump in 2020, the butthurt R's will make Hillary's opponents look calm and rational.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 06-30-2017, 02:51 PM.
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                      • #41
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                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtGOQFf9VCE

                        Holy Crap. We're not progressing as a society at all.
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                        • #42
                          Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          So that leaves open that Trump and Bannon are just dupes of Ryan et al, who have the real agenda, their usual revolting neofeudal dictatorship. Certainly they always point to that as their magnetic north. Certainly they deceive and dissemble to achieve their aims. But are they capable enough to lead Dump by that narcissistic ring in his nose?
                          Oh my. There's the angle I hadn't pondered.

                          The Rs only had "corp-y" candidates (Jeb!, Carly) that had any shot of winning (sorry Ted Cruz). That's not going to work and they knew it because corporate types are so e-e-e-e-vil. So, why not pull in the "outsider" to win*. But have a way to manipulate him. An RNC back door. Reince.

                          Holy crap, Kep. Between you and me we're weaving a completely outlandish narrative ... that just might not be that far off!


                          *Don't claim Trump is corporate. He's never worked for anyone but himself.
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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtGOQFf9VCE

                            Holy Crap. We're not progressing as a society at all.
                            The curtain is coming down on the right's comedy act, it's just happening slowly.

                            Short of an actual coup and the end of the right to vote, they simply do not have the numbers to maintain their Fantasy League government much longer.

                            At most, 25% of the country shares the GOP's theo-cultural fundamentalism. At most, 2% of the country benefits from GOP economic and political policies, while everyone else is injured. Even with their propaganda networks spewing lies 24/7 their own base will eventually recognize how savagely they have been played, and long before that we will have taken the country back by inexorable democratic means.

                            The violence, if and when it comes, will probably be right on right, as the white working class realizes what the plutes and the GOP elites have done to their children.
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                            • #44
                              Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                              During my long drive home a few days ago, I had this thought. Does POTUS #46 get his/her face carved on Mt. Rushmore during the term in office, or will the public be willing to wait until after the term is at least over? I mean seriously, how good are you going to look as #46? Won't #46 pretty much be able to order the mint to print c-notes with their own likeness on them and have them delivered by the bale to the White House, with the media and public delivering a collective "whatever" after #45?
                              #46 will be guaranteed re-election unless they are Gerald Ford...ifyaknowwhatimsayin!
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                              • #45
                                Re: POTUS 45.13 - CNN is still Fake News

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Obama came after Dubya. Obama was hated by a third of the country. Not opposed. Hated.

                                If 45 is a D who beats Dump in 2020, the butthurt R's will make Hillary's opponents look calm and rational.
                                Yeah but Obama was Black...all he did was expose that racism is still alive and well. If he was White Luther from BFE, America he is only disliked for his politics.
                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
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