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  • #46
    Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

    Didn't WC originate in the Chicago area?

    ETA: Nope, near Witchita, KS.
    Last edited by St. Clown; 06-27-2017, 11:45 PM.
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    • #47
      Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

      Referring to the MSP-StPaul post about 7 county metro area...I still catch myself when I say I'm from "The Cities" (referring to the Twin Cities; yes, 7 county area). It's kinda funny to people who are not from the 5 state area (ND, SD, MN, IA, MN). The people in those states usually know where you're referring to. Outside of that? Total confusion.
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      • #48
        Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
        Referring to the MSP-StPaul post about 7 county metro area...I still catch myself when I say I'm from "The Cities" (referring to the Twin Cities; yes, 7 county area). It's kinda funny to people who are not from the 5 state area (ND, SD, MN, IA, MN). The people in those states usually know where you're referring to. Outside of that? Total confusion.
        I say I'm from a southern Minneapolis suburb when talking to people from outside the plain states for that very reason (even though we have a 651 area code - St. Paul's code, for you East Coast Biases).
        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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        • #49
          Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          I say I'm from a southern Minneapolis suburb when talking to people from outside the plain states for that very reason (even though we have a 651 area code - St. Paul's code, for you East Coast Biases).
          Hit up Traverse City once for a wedding...watching the hotel clerk in Menomonie MI try to pronounce "Minnetonka" was hilarious.
          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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          • #50
            Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

            Originally posted by Hammer View Post
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            • #51
              Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Looking back in Church history, I have a solution that was used in the Papal Conclave of 1268-71.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa...ion,_1268–71
              From the CE:

              If they did not come to an agreement on a candidate in three days, their victuals were to lessened, and after a further delay of five days, the food supply was to be still further restricted.
              At which point even a Cardinal (or a state legislator) could see where this was headed.
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              • #52
                Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                The situation is getting more surreal by the day.

                This is what happens when a major American state lets its bills stack up for two years.

                Hospitals, doctors and dentists don’t get paid for hundreds of millions of dollars of patient care. Social-service agencies help fewer people. Public universities and the towns that surround them suffer. The state’s bond rating falls to near junk status. People move out.
                ....
                State workers and some others are still getting paid because of court orders and other stopgap measures, but bills for many others are piling up.

                The unpaid backlog is now $14.6 billion and growing. Illinois is even late paying its utilities bills to Springfield, its own capital city. On July 1, the beginning of the next fiscal year, billions of dollars in road projects are scheduled to grind to a halt. [emphasis added]
                ....
                Looming behind the fiscal train wreck are an estimated $250 billion in unfunded pension liabilities, the worst in the nation, according to Moody’s Investors Service. S&P Global Ratings has warned that it could lower the state’s rating to junk as early as this week if it doesn’t pass a budget.
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                • #53
                  Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                  Has a state ever gone bankrupt? Can you put it in receivership, like a city?

                  Gotta think it happened a lot in the early days, when our finances were, shall we say, ad hoc.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Has a state ever gone bankrupt? Can you put it in receivership, like a city?

                    Gotta think it happened a lot in the early days, when our finances were, shall we say, ad hoc.
                    Didn't California come close in the 90s??
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                    • #55
                      Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Didn't California come close in the 90s??
                      They did. Then they got a Democratic supermajority and have been rolling in it ever since.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                        Zero concern state wide.

                        WGN's headlines:
                        - Powerball ticket sales end tonight, Mega Million Friday, due to budget.
                        - Three CPD officers charged with conspiracy to cover up shooting of Laquan McDonald.
                        - Five shot on West Side among several wounded Tuesday.
                        - Man beaten and tied up in home invasion in Logan Square.
                        - 1-Minute Weather Forecast.


                        Similar from CBS Chicago, Chicago Tribune.

                        The Daily Herald has nothing about the budget, except part way down where a local county "is preparing for budget doomsday."
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                        • #57
                          Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                          From said Daily Herald article:

                          "We are not going to stop our projects," said county board member Paul Fichtner, who serves as chairman of the board's finance committee.

                          Cash for the expenses likely would come out of the county's reserves and be recouped after the state budget crisis is over.

                          "This has happened before," county board Chairman Dan Cronin said. "We have covered it. We expect and we are hopeful that in the long-term there will be a budget and -- just like years past -- we will be made whole."

                          But officials acknowledge that previous cuts in state funding never lasted more than a few weeks.

                          "So it's kind of been a low-risk bet," County Administrator Tom Cuculich said. "This year, we'll have to monitor it closely."
                           

                          Zero concern.
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                          • #58
                            Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                            This is what happens when you don't pay the bills. This is also a GOP Politician's wet dream.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by aparch View Post
                              Zero concern state wide.

                              WGN's headlines:
                              - Powerball ticket sales end tonight, Mega Million Friday, due to budget.
                              - Three CPD officers charged with conspiracy to cover up shooting of Laquan McDonald.
                              - Five shot on West Side among several wounded Tuesday.
                              - Man beaten and tied up in home invasion in Logan Square.
                              - 1-Minute Weather Forecast.


                              Similar from CBS Chicago, Chicago Tribune.

                              The Daily Herald has nothing about the budget, except part way down where a local county "is preparing for budget doomsday."
                              All politics is local. Does Chicago care what happens in Peoria (and vice versa)? How many care or know who represents them in Springfield?

                              Until the public gets really angry and surrounds the state house and governor's mansion, it will be business as usual (which goes for every state, not just the Land of Lincoln).
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                              • #60
                                Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                This is what happens when you don't pay the bills. This is also a GOP Politician's wet dream.
                                It's the GOP plan for the whole country. Keep borrowing, keep siphoning off everything you can to the rich. Bankrupt the state so it can't oppose the oligarchs. Destroy the safety net and program the serfs to fight each other on racial or religious lines instead of unifying.

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