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  • #76
    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    The same people running the country run the pensions and salaries. They artificially inflate your pension during negotiations to artificially deflate your salary so then they can say the pension is bankrupt later on.

    Always get the money you deserve up front. Never trust retirement plans, or pension plans, or any of that crap. They're lying and the actuaries always **** up the math.
    Just ask Mario
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    • #77
      Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

      Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
      Just ask Mario
      I'll say.
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      • #78
        Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

        We have officially gone without a budget for the third straight year. There will be no 11th hour deal either.
        http://abc7chicago.com/politics/no-b...urday/2167095/
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        • #79
          Originally posted by aparch View Post
          We have officially gone without a budget for the third straight year. There will be no 11th hour deal either.
          http://abc7chicago.com/politics/no-b...urday/2167095/
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          • #80
            Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Lock em up, remove the roof and bread and water.
            Or create a second IL government at whatever's their equivalent of Avignon. Joliet? ("captivity," nyuk, nyuk; plus: French)
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            • #81
              Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

              The legislature met yesterday and today. Going into today's session, there was actual optimism shared on both sides of the aisle that they would reach some agreement. The proposed bill, which had increases Dems wanted and cuts Repubs wanted, were supposedly included (both sides said that the proposed bill was built on the Republican plan, with the Dem tax increases inserted in and less cuts than the straight Repub plan.

              Then, Madigan pulled a fast one and submitted a brand new 600+ page budget for a vote this afternoon that neither party had a chance to read.


              This isn't Dems versus Republicans. This is a biggest dick measuring contest between Madigan and Rauner.


              Also, I have been officially told to "take my paid time-off," and if the budget continues to drag on my company will "evaluate the dozen of us affected."
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Or create a second IL government at whatever's their equivalent of Avignon. Joliet? ("captivity," nyuk, nyuk; plus: French)
                Anti governor? Anti legislature?
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                • #83
                  Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                  They're back discussing. Test vote is close, but Leader Durkin (R) walks out on vote claiming it isn't tough enough. Won't say what fellow R's will do.

                  Third vote falls six votes short of being passed.
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                  • #84
                    Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                    Sorry, it was the second vote that fell short.

                    Illinois House debated more and passed the third vote 81-43 (eight yes votes more than was expected, and the minimum was 71 needed).

                    Senate takes up the bill tomorrow.

                    Rauner already stated he'll veto the bill.
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                    • #85
                      Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                      Originally posted by aparch View Post
                      Sorry, it was the second vote that fell short.

                      Illinois House debated more and passed the third vote 81-43 (eight yes votes more than was expected, and the minimum was 71 needed).

                      Senate takes up the bill tomorrow.

                      Rauner already stated he'll veto the bill.
                      Do they have an override function or is this just more gamesmanship?
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                        Do they have an override function or is this just more gamesmanship?
                        Yes to the gamesmanship, but there is an override feature to Illinois legislature. It requires 3/5th majority on the second go around in both House and Senate to override the Governor's veto. 36/59 Senators, 71/118

                        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...702-story.html
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                        • #87
                          Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                          Rauner vetoed, Senate voted to override

                          http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Ill...432490813.html

                          What's the next step?
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                            Rauner vetoed, Senate voted to override

                            http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Ill...432490813.html

                            What's the next step?
                            The House has to vote on it next and get the same >=72 votes to override Rauner. Because of the 4th of July, they say the vote will take place Thursday.
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                            • #89
                              Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                              Originally posted by aparch View Post
                              The House has to vote on it next and get the same >=72 votes to override Rauner. Because of the 4th of July, they say the vote will take place Thursday.
                              Do they have the votes?
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                              • #90
                                Re: Illinois is broke(n) ...

                                Even if the budget passes, it sounds like Illinois is heading for Junk bond status.

                                http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/05/inve...eal/index.html
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