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  • #46
    Originally posted by geezer View Post
    The thing to bear in mind is that Trump could just as easily have aligned himself with the Democrats, and he would have still been just as ***tty a president. Would that be just fine then because democrat? He is not a conservative or liberal person.
    He could have easily aligned himself that way, but he wouldn't have gotten the nomination as easily. The Dems have more proportional primaries rather than winner take all, which really boosted trump early on by getting all delegates with ~30 percent of vote totals.

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    • #47
      Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
      All this does is reinforce my fear that we haven't hit bottom yet. And if that's true by the time we figure out we're at bottom it will be too late.
      We're setting new records for the US every day, but no. This is the bottom, the universal taproot of hatred and violence. When the Vegetables get in a jam they always think they can control it. In the end the bonfire becomes the whole world.
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      • #48
        Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        We're setting new records for the US every day, but no. This is the bottom, the universal taproot of hatred and violence. When the Vegetables get in a jam they always think they can control it. In the end the bonfire becomes the whole world.
        That should never have had to happen again. It's why we teach history to our population.
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        • #49
          Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          He could have easily aligned himself that way, but he wouldn't have gotten the nomination as easily. The Dems have more proportional primaries rather than winner take all, which really boosted trump early on by getting all delegates with ~30 percent of vote totals.
          Trump could have won the Democratic nomination easily in 1896 with William Jennings Bryan, or 1948 with Strom Thurmond, or even 1964 with George Wallace. But to win as a Dem now he would have had to entice the Dixiecrats back, and that ship has long since sailed.

          To be honest he would have had a better shot as a Third Party candidate -- a successful Pat Buchanan -- than as a Democrat.
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          • #50
            Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Trump could have won the Democratic nomination easily in 1896 with William Jennings Bryan, or 1948 with Strom Thurmond, or even 1964 with George Wallace. But to win as a Dem now he would have had to entice the Dixiecrats back, and that ship has long since sailed.

            To be honest he would have had a better shot as a Third Party candidate -- a successful Pat Buchanan -- than as a Democrat.
            Oh man......a third party with Trump at the helm?! That.....whoa. Talk about unadulterated chaos, and that is being said even now, currently. Compared to now? Even more of a train wreck, IMO.
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            • #51
              Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

              Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
              Oh man......a third party with Trump at the helm?! That.....whoa. Talk about unadulterated chaos, and that is being said even now, currently. Compared to now? Even more of a train wreck, IMO.
              It would have happened if the GOP had gotten their dicks out of their own as-ses in time to screw him out of the nom.

              But for sheer larfs you really can't beat now. The funniest thing in the current government isn't Trump, it's the Republicans who have to eat his sh-t and smile and beg for more please because they're afraid of his base. It really couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Marmalards.
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              • #52
                Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                Could Trump really have won as a third party candidate, though? As much as he played the card of being the outsider, in the end he needed the framework of being the candidate of one of the two major parties, if for no other reason than by having the (R) he gets for free the 30% that won't vote for a (D). Additionally, being the candidate of one of the big 2 gives at least an appearance of legitimacy that being a third party candidate instinctively does not (not saying it shouldn't, just acknowledging people's gut reaction).

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                • #53
                  Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                  Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                  Could Trump really have won as a third party candidate, though? As much as he played the card of being the outsider, in the end he needed the framework of being the candidate of one of the two major parties, if for no other reason than by having the (R) he gets for free the 30% that won't vote for a (D). Additionally, being the candidate of one of the big 2 gives at least an appearance of legitimacy that being a third party candidate instinctively does not (not saying it shouldn't, just acknowledging people's gut reaction).
                  Oh, he would have lost, but he would have pulled enough from Lyin Ted or Little Marco that even Hillary would have coasted to victory.
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                  • #54
                    Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                    Could Trump really have won as a third party candidate, though? As much as he played the card of being the outsider, in the end he needed the framework of being the candidate of one of the two major parties, if for no other reason than by having the (R) he gets for free the 30% that won't vote for a (D). Additionally, being the candidate of one of the big 2 gives at least an appearance of legitimacy that being a third party candidate instinctively does not (not saying it shouldn't, just acknowledging people's gut reaction).
                    That is a good point. Although by running with a major party he sorta kinda had to concede a couple things. As a third party, there would ZERO constraints, and where I was coming from......
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                    • #55
                      Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Oh, he would have lost, but he would have pulled enough from Lyin Ted or Little Marco that even Hillary would have coasted to victory.
                      It would have been split almost down the middle. Clinton would have won somewhere between 50-25-25 and 50-30-20
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                      • #56
                        Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        It would have been split almost down the middle. Clinton would have won somewhere between 50-25-25 and 50-30-20
                        I would agree with that.
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                        • #57
                          Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                          Originally posted by geezer View Post
                          The thing to bear in mind is that Trump could just as easily have aligned himself with the Democrats, and he would have still been just as ***tty a president. Would that be just fine then because democrat? He is not a conservative or liberal person.
                          Ummm, no?

                          Wouldn't have made it out of a Democratic primary.

                          That he did the Republicans' speaks all you need to know about them, and their party.
                          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                          • #58
                            Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                            Originally posted by geezer View Post
                            re: Kepler, I don't think there's any such thing as "the white community." If there were, who do you feel is able to speak for it? Even more than with minority races, "whites" illustrate that people are individual actors. You have crazy Trump humpers out stabbing people, you have hippy dippy Birkenstock wearing professors, and plenty of normal people who speak out against Trump (or don't) who can all be called "white." So to call out "the white community" doesn't accomplish anything good, but it adds to the misconception that we all must be ruled by group identity assignment against our self interest and moral responsibilities. There is no white community or black community or born Democrat etc. There are a lot of people, most of whom want to get along with each other.
                            I welcome your corrections.
                            Not sure why we're still actually listening to the great divider...

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                            • #59
                              Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                              Originally posted by unofan View Post
                              He could have easily aligned himself that way, but he wouldn't have gotten the nomination as easily. The Dems have more proportional primaries rather than winner take all, which really boosted trump early on by getting all delegates with ~30 percent of vote totals.
                              This is another lesson the Republicans should take from the chaos president, maybe fix their primaries to stem populism a bit.
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                              • #60
                                Re: POTUS 45.11: Attack! Repeat. Atrack!!!

                                Originally posted by geezer View Post
                                This is another lesson the Republicans should take from the chaos president, maybe fix their primaries to stem populism a bit.
                                Populism is what wins elections. People are sick of the establishment BS. They want something other than that.

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