The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Not only that, but evidently this person thinks income tax is the only way the government gets money. How did the country survive for ~125 years prior to 1913?

No social security. No public welfare. No big corporate farms providing a consistent supply of food. No public schooling beyond about 8th grade. No interstate highway system. No air/seaports. Greatly reduced interstate and international commerce. No real healthcare - illnesses and deaths were largely viewed as "God's will". A military that got by on state militias and the hunting rifles of soldiers. In short - a poorer, dumber, more rural population, that tended to die much younger. OK for 1817, not so great in 2017.

But yeah, what have taxes ever done for society?

[alfablue]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Extreme Triage??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...smokers-obese/

Seems like as a country, we need to convince Republicans that liberals will really hate it if they all ate a lot of sugar, and smoked a lot. Let Coke and Winston sponsor the next convention.

Combine that with the plan for healthcare that's the best that dump can come up with, and we can get rid of a lot of republican voters very naturally.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Oh look, Obama makes an executive order, a court declares it unconstitutional, Obama gets a stay pending appeal, Trump rescinds said unconstitutional order, states freak out and sue. https://www.infowars.com/dems-sue-tr...ecutive-order/

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Those historical rates are misleading as they're strictly nominal, not effective rates. Nobody was paying 91% of their last dollar earned in taxes, not when they could deduct their rug or lamp shades as home improvement expenses. Find a historical analysis of top-earning individual effective rates, and the graph will look much different, much more consistent. They're still paying less now, as a rate, than prior, but it's not such a drastic change.

Not only that, but evidently this person thinks income tax is the only way the government gets money. How did the country survive for ~125 years prior to 1913?

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

He cuts the CSR's through executive order. Asks Congress to fix it. They come up with a bipartisan deal and............

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan Senate deal to curb the growth of health insurance premiums is reeling after President Donald Trump reversed course and opposed the agreement, and top congressional Republicans and conservatives gave it a frosty reception.

http://www.sunjournal.com/news/natio...e-deal/2219356

And Democrats are the obstructionists?

In an evening speech at the conservative Heritage Foundation, he said that "while I commend" the work by the two senators, "I continue to believe Congress must find a solution to the Obamacare mess instead of providing bailouts to insurance companies."

"This agreement avoids chaos," Alexander said. "I don't know a Republican or Democrat who benefits from chaos."

Good luck, Mr. Alexander. The POTUS loves chaos. He thrives on it. He'll get reelected on it.

[mookie1995]

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Should make for a fun talking point...especially when the GOP tries to get tax reform done.

that's done. isn't mccain brokering a deal now to open up budget space? thought mookie read it is bought and paid for. easy peasy

[Handyman]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

This is what Republicans do to States that work with Obamacare to make their states better.



http://www.startribune.com/bipartisa...uts/451344863/

Should make for a fun talking point...especially when the GOP tries to get tax reform done.

[Rover]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

The way around this is to jam it into the next govt shutdown/debt ceiling hike as a condition of Dem support. Goopers don't have enough votes to pass either on their own and Chump will just make it look like he's willing to make a deal with anyone to get things done, all the while hanging Itch and Weasel Paul Ryan out to dry.

[ScoobyDoo]

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This is what Republicans do to States that work with Obamacare to make their states better.

If Congress doesn’t act, MinnesotaCare could lose an estimated $742 million in federal funding over the next four years.

http://www.startribune.com/bipartisa...uts/451344863/

[joecct]

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Extreme Triage??

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...smokers-obese/

[bronconick]

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Patty Murray and Lamar Alexander did. That doesn't mean the House passes it or Rand Paul and Mike Lee don't throw a hissy fit.

Passing the Senate is possible, if unlikely. 48+ half a dozen Repubs could be done.Getting the House to even vote is a pipe dream.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Didnt they have an agreement yesterday? What did a bunch of Ole Whitey's change their mind?

Patty Murray and Lamar Alexander did. That doesn't mean the House passes it or Rand Paul and Mike Lee don't throw a hissy fit.

[Handyman]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Didnt they have an agreement yesterday? What did a bunch of Ole Whitey's change their mind?

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

Yet another last-ditch effort to tackle the nation’s health-care system stalled within hours of its release by a bipartisan pair of senators Tuesday, with President Trump sending mixed signals and Republicans either declining to endorse the proposal or outright opposing it.

Here's how bipartisanship goes with Republicans in charge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.75c3762bf173

[Kepler]

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Sure they do! You can use health care dollars to pay for tax cuts for the rich!

If they get another SCOTUS justice the state will start reserving medical care to white Christians.