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  • #931
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    The GOP for at least the last 4 years of BHO talked about repeal and replace. Repeal and replace. OK - where was the replace on 1/21/17?

    The excuse that the dog ate the bill won't fly. They were unprepared. That is a indictment of a gross failure of leadership.
    More likely they never had any intention to repeal it. Their poutrage was just red meat for the suckers. It's a capitalist solution that keeps the donor class fat and happy and it headed off a better socialist solution, just like Heritage designed it to do. Why would they want it gone? All the bluster was just their dog whistle "we hate that n-gger, too!" to their charming voters. It was always completely disingenuous.
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    • #932
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      More likely they never had any intention of actually do it. It was just red meat for the suckers. It's a capitalist solution that keeps the donor class fat and happy; why would they want it gone? All the bluster was just their dog whistle "we hate that n-gger, too!" to their charming voters. It was always completely disingenuous.
      OR. The Senators with a brain (most of them) went home and their Constituents screamed at them that they want Obamacare gone but keep the Affordable Care Act. Cause that's how stupid of an electorate we have. Then they got cold feet. Hell, Cassidy is taking it in the shorts right now from Jimmy Kimmel.
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      • #933
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        The GOP for at least the last 4 years of BHO talked about repeal and replace. Repeal and replace. OK - where was the replace on 1/21/17?

        The excuse that the dog ate the bill won't fly. They were unprepared. That is a indictment of a gross failure of leadership.
        that was just talk to rile you righties up and get you frothing at the mouth so you'd show up at the voting booth. They didn't give a **** about healthcare. Now they are the dog that caught the car and they don't know what the **** to do.

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        • #934
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          OR. The Senators with a brain (most of them) went home and their Constituents screamed at them that they want Obamacare gone but keep the Affordable Care Act. Cause that's how stupid of an electorate we have. Then they got cold feet. Hell, Cassidy is taking it in the shorts right now from Jimmy Kimmel.
          I think this is more correct. Goopers assumed people really wanted to get rid of healthcare to pay for tax cuts for the rich, because the millionaire donors and lobbyists they spend 99.9% of their time with want that. A straight repeal bill would have been pretty easy to do if not for the blowback from their constituents and horrific poll #'s for an issue that was getting a lot of coverage. Once the issue was quickly framed as nothing as part 1 of a massive tax giveaway, (part 2 being the so-called "reform" we're hearing about now) it was the beginning of the end. Some knuck' in the house said it best, which was McCain took that decisive vote for a handful of his colleagues who also didn't want the bill passed but feared a primary. Meaning, I'm not sure the final vote was ever as close as it appeared by the time the thing was mercifully buried.
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          • #935
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

            Originally posted by BassAle View Post
            that was just talk to rile you righties up and get you frothing at the mouth so you'd show up at the voting booth. They didn't give a **** about healthcare. Now they are the dog that caught the car and they don't know what the **** to do.
            Bingo!
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            • #936
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

              Originally posted by Rover View Post
              I think this is more correct. Goopers assumed people really wanted to get rid of healthcare to pay for tax cuts for the rich, because the millionaire donors and lobbyists they spend 99.9% of their time with want that. A straight repeal bill would have been pretty easy to do if not for the blowback from their constituents and horrific poll #'s for an issue that was getting a lot of coverage. Once the issue was quickly framed as nothing as part 1 of a massive tax giveaway, (part 2 being the so-called "reform" we're hearing about now) it was the beginning of the end. Some knuck' in the house said it best, which was McCain took that decisive vote for a handful of his colleagues who also didn't want the bill passed but feared a primary. Meaning, I'm not sure the final vote was ever as close as it appeared by the time the thing was mercifully buried.
              I dunno, I think Mitch believed he had it when McCain made his vote. I was watching that live (by accident the gf and I stumbled upon it as we were going to bed and needed something to watch) and Mitch went from Shiny Happy to Angry Turtle when that thumbs down came.

              I think he wanted it dead, but I think it was for different reasons than what is hypothesized...he wanted Trump to sign it and Trump to be buried by it.
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              • #937
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                that was just talk to rile you righties up and get you frothing at the mouth so you'd show up at the voting booth. They didn't give a **** about healthcare. Now they are the dog that caught the car and they don't know what the **** to do.
                Nah, they're the dog that got into mom's stash of Godiva chocolate bars, and is now not feeling so good...

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                • #938
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                  It's not fascism when His Heinous does it

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                  • #939
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                    Pretty sure interstate commerce laws are governed by the congress.
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                    • #940
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                      Churchill and Lloyd George would not be happy.

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                      • #941
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                        Congress just allowed the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provided low-cost health insurance to 9 million children, to expire.

                        If action is not taken soon to restore the funding, the effects will become obvious in schools across the country, with many of the children in the program unable to see a doctor for routine checkups, immunizations, visits when sick and other services.

                        The program, created under a 1997 law passed with bipartisan support during the administration of President Bill Clinton, provided coverage for children in families with low and moderate incomes as well as to pregnant women. It was instrumental in lowering the percentage of children who were uninsured from nearly 14 percent when it started to 4.5 percent in 2015. It was last reauthorized in 2015 and was due to be renewed by Sept. 30, 2017.

                        Amid unsuccessful efforts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, the Republican-led Congress allowed the CHIP deadline to pass without action.
                        Yeah, **** Congress.

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                        • #942
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                          Congress just allowed the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provided low-cost health insurance to 9 million children, to expire.
                          The white poor would have prevented this by voting Democratic. They did not.
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                          • #943
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                            Technically, they have somewhere between the end of the year and March 2018, depending on the states to reauthorize it.
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                            • #944
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                              Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                              Technically, they have somewhere between the end of the year and March 2018, depending on the states to reauthorize it.
                              Or the states could actually take charge of it, instead of this inefficient national stuff. That's the whole point, but not surprising that the Washington [com]Post would spin it to make brainwashed morons think it's not possible without a huge oppressive central government.

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                              • #945
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                The white poor would have prevented this by voting Democratic. They did not.
                                just think of it as post-birth abortion. pro-choice. repubs finally coming around
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