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  • #361
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
    Historically, does anyone know how dentists got such a sweet deal compared to doctors? Somehow when everyone complains about "healthcare this" or "health insurance that" it never includes dentistry. They weren't affected in the slightest by PPACA, they have their own separate insurance plans, no one seems to complain that dental costs are rising too fast or that poor people are denied dental coverage by heartless evil rich white male bigots.....

    I'm genuinely curious; if anyone knows something about how and when dentistry split off from medicine and became its own separate little fiefdom, I'd like to hear more. Thanks.
    There's this

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/why-dentistry-is-separated-from-medicine/518979/
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    • #362
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

      How Murkowski is being wooed to vote on the Health Care Bill.
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      • #363
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

        Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
        How Murkowski is being wooed to vote on the Health Care Bill.
        But I was told she is a moderate...
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        • #364
          Originally posted by Handyman View Post
          But I was told she is a moderate...
          No, she's a sell out.
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          • #365
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            But I was told she is a moderate...
            The last moderate Republicans were gone after 1994
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            • #366
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Historically, does anyone know how dentists got such a sweet deal compared to doctors? Somehow when everyone complains about "healthcare this" or "health insurance that" it never includes dentistry. They weren't affected in the slightest by PPACA, they have their own separate insurance plans, no one seems to complain that dental costs are rising too fast or that poor people are denied dental coverage by heartless evil rich white male bigots.....

              I'm genuinely curious; if anyone knows something about how and when dentistry split off from medicine and became its own separate little fiefdom, I'd like to hear more. Thanks.
              split off from? they were never attached. they are not real doctors anyhow
              a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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              • #367
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                split off from? they were never attached. they are not real doctors anyhow
                Surgeons weren't doctors until the Napoleanic wars. Before that they were technicians -- literally "saw bones."

                I'm interested in Fish's question, too. What happened with dentists to carve out their own little kingdom? From bronco's AM link:

                But the dental profession really became a profession in 1840 in Baltimore. That was when the first dental college in the world was opened, I found out, and that was thanks to the efforts of a couple of dentists who were kind of self-trained. Their names were Chapin Harris and Horace Hayden. They approached the physicians at the college of medicine at the University of Maryland in Baltimore with the idea of adding dental instruction to the medical course there, because they really believed that dentistry was more than a mechanical challenge, that it deserved status as a profession, and a course of study, and licensing, and peer-reviewed scientific consideration. But the physicians, the story goes, rejected their proposal and said the subject of dentistry was of little consequence.

                That event is remembered as the “historic rebuff.” It's still talked about sometimes, not a lot, but it’s seen as a symbolic event and it’s continued to define the relationships between medical and dental education and medical and dental healthcare systems in funny ways. Dentists still drill and fill teeth and physicians still look at the body from the tonsils south. Medical and dental education is still provided separately almost everywhere in this country and our two systems have grown up to provide care separately, too.
                That doesn't explain why, though it suggests guild snobbery.
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                • #368
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                  well, gee. how did plumbers get their own gig too? or jockeys?
                  a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                  • #369
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    split off from? they were never attached. they are not real doctors anyhow
                    What are you, an anti-Dentite? First it starts with a few jokes, next thing you'll be saying they should have their own schools..
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                    • #370
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                      if anything it is tied to them being able to finagle their way into the ponzi scheme that is insurance. then if anything that fact that you don't need to buy dental insurance keeps it cheap
                      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                      • #371
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        What are you, an anti-Dentite? First it starts with a few jokes, next thing you'll be saying they should have their own schools..
                        some of my best friends are dentish
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                        • #372
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                          Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          What are you, an anti-Dentite? First it starts with a few jokes, next thing you'll be saying they should have their own schools..
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                          • #373
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                            some of my best friends are dentish
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                            • #374
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                              no one seems to complain that dental costs are rising too fast or that poor people are denied dental coverage by heartless evil rich white male bigots.....
                              I'm not sure why it is a completely separate healthcare system, however:
                              Poor people don't go to the dentist. And everyone else gets dental insurance at work that covers two visits a year, which is enough to prevent most problems that lead to expensive treatment. If you could insure just your spleen I assume the rates would be pretty good.

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                              • #375
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                                Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                                I'm not sure why it is a completely separate healthcare system, however:
                                Poor people don't go to the dentist. And everyone else gets dental insurance at work that covers two visits a year, which is enough to prevent most problems that lead to expensive treatment. If you could insure just your spleen I assume the rates would be pretty good.
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