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  • #316
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    They only pay more in taxes because they have stolen all the benefits of economic expansion since 1980 while everyone else has stagnated.

    But hey, it's going to be neutral for my household and if we can get up above about $420k we'll actually start making some profit.

    I guess "f-ck y'all" has its charms.
    I wish that chart were scaled for number of people in each bracket. Show the number of people negatively and positively impacted in each bracket.
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    • #317
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      But we can still come back from the brink. We did it in 1932.
      Came back to where? Here??
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      • #318
        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        I wish that chart were scaled for number of people in each bracket. Show the number of people negatively and positively impacted in each bracket.
        Mookie likes how someone making 37,600 really ****ed off tD

        And how that MFJ doesn't double for the upper middle class 400k earners
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        • #319
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
          Borrow and Spend only is awesome and capitalism if you're borrowing and spending on the RICH. Otherwise, no.
          Ah, yes, thank you for the correction.

          And we must remember, that giving rich people money will trickle down to good jobs for all of us...... Someday. In someone's fantasy book.

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          • #320
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

            Originally posted by alfablue View Post
            Ah, yes, thank you for the correction.

            And we must remember, that giving rich people money will trickle down to good jobs for all of us...... Someday. In someone's fantasy book.
            Still waiting. I think I saw a sprinkle once. Pretty dry desert otherwise.
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            • #321
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              I wish that chart were scaled for number of people in each bracket. Show the number of people negatively and positively impacted in each bracket.
              I would think the massive majority would be in the (37-91, single; 75-152 joint) section, which is unchanged.

              The only significant effect of this plan is to drive (415+; 467+) from .40 to .33. That's all it does and all it's supposed to do, because being bent over without lube by the rich for the last 37 years apparently isn't enough. The extra $5T in debt will then be paid by the middle class. The poor have no money and the rich avoid paying their share, so we are the only ones left to pay. And of course we pay again with the opportunity cost of the investments that money could go for. Instead, our country falls apart as the wealthy pocket what would go for education and roads.

              Cut the rich's taxes and debt explodes and the middle class dies. Economists knew this would happen back before we tried it. We now know this is true from almost 40 years' horrific experience. How anyone can argue for this on the merits, rather than just purely as class warfare to benefit the 1%, is beyond belief.

              And yet... our very own useful idiots will defend it on pure ideological grounds, despite all the empirical evidence. It's a religious faith, not an economic theory, and they hate us so much they will always cling to it simply because we can refute it.
              Last edited by Kepler; 07-10-2017, 04:10 PM.
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              • #322
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                I wish that chart were scaled for number of people in each bracket. Show the number of people negatively and positively impacted in each bracket.
                If the makers of that graph just went to IRS.gov, all of that data is very easily available.

                Pretty interesting, too- since the actual tax rates don't even come close to the brackets that we all are assigned to. And the richer you go, the lower the actual taxed rate is. It peaks at 28% in the mid 100's, and lowers to just over 20%, IIRC from the last time I looked.

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                • #323
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  Borrow and Spend only is awesome and capitalism if you're borrowing and spending on the RICH. Otherwise, no.
                  Not if you ask poor whites in rural America. Borrow and Spend is great.

                  Remember, the average right leaning person thinks the 80s were great economically because Big Business was making YUGE profits and the rich were getting paid. Sure they had a cruddy standard of living, their health care was crap and the deficit was skyrocketing...a bunch of banks made billions and fooled everyone into thinking that meant THEY got some of the pie. These same people then voted out GHWB because he dared try and pay for the crap St. Ronnie the Forgetful never paid for.
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                  • #324
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    Not if you ask poor whites in rural America. Borrow and Spend is great.

                    Remember, the average right leaning person thinks the 80s were great economically because Big Business was making YUGE profits and the rich were getting paid. Sure they had a cruddy standard of living, their health care was crap and the deficit was skyrocketing...a bunch of banks made billions and fooled everyone into thinking that meant THEY got some of the pie. These same people then voted out GHWB because he dared try and pay for the crap St. Ronnie the Forgetful never paid for.
                    They hear the economy is great on the CBS Evening news and they figure their trickle is happening for them. Meanwhile Uncle Jeb just got his Social Security Disability approved and his check is in the mail.
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                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • #325
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                      Ah, yes, thank you for the correction.

                      And we must remember, that giving rich people money will trickle down to good jobs for all of us...... Someday. In someone's fantasy book.
                      Hey now...it worked in Kansas right? Hmmm...
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                      • #326
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                        Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                        Hey now...it worked in Kansas right? Hmmm...
                        Yeah, it bombed. Just like it bombed in Wisconsin. For some reason the Wisconites are too drunk to know it yet.
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                        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                        • #327
                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          Yeah, it bombed. Just like it bombed in Wisconsin. For some reason the Wisconites are too drunk to know it yet.
                          No. We Bombed in New Haven.

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Bombed_in_New_Haven
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                          • #328
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Borrow and Spend only is awesome and capitalism if you're borrowing and spending on the RICH. Otherwise, no.
                            Borrow and Spend = Good
                            Tax and spend = Baaaaaaaaaad

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                            • #329
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                              538 has a nice breakdown of what Mitch faces whipping DontCare.
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                              • #330
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                                This will be an interesting test. Poor, f-cked up, red state with tons of people on the Medicaid expansion and a Senate race to be fought over it. Will Republicans stick with their guy and cut their own throats or go blue the way they did with their governor?

                                Freedumb ideology is cute until your kid is sick. Let's see if these people will actually throw their kids to the wolves to maintain an ideological fiction.
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