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  • #301
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    http://www.startribune.com/ryan-says...orm/433170493/
    We all know the rich further shirking their taxes is the whole show for the GOP in general and Ryan in particular. Get ready for $5,500,000,000,000 in new debt.

    Where are the deficit hawks now?

    Crickets.
    Last edited by Kepler; 07-10-2017, 12:43 PM.
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    • #302
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      We all know the rich further shirking their taxes is the whole show for the GOP in general and Ryan in particular. Get ready for $5,500,000,000,000 in new debt.

      Where are the deficit hawks now?

      Crickets.
      We all know they only come out when Democrats propose spending on things like the poor, health care, seniors, roads, science, climate, etc. They all exist then. In force.
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      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • #303
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        We all know they only come out when Democrats propose spending on things like the poor, health care, seniors, roads, science, climate, etc. They all exist then. In force.
        Well of course. Those things are all "waste." Unlike giving Trump's children a billion dollar break on their estate taxes. That's a fundamental national interest.

        And still, Fish and Flag will defend this tax plan, when they are their kids and grandkids and great grandkids will be paying for it.

        It boggles the mind. The ideology gets packed in so tightly the thinking stops.
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        • #304
          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          Well of course. Those things are all "waste." Unlike giving Trump's children a billion dollar break on their estate taxes. That's a fundamental national interest.

          And still, Fish and Flag will defend this tax plan, when they are their kids and grandkids and great grandkids will be paying for it.

          It boggles the mind.
          They pay all the taxes so they get all the tax cuts. And round and round we go.
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          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #305
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            They pay all the taxes so they get all the tax cuts. And round and round we go.
            They only pay more in taxes because they have stolen all the benefits of economic expansion since 1980 while everyone else has stagnated.

            But hey, it's going to be neutral for my household and if we can get up above about $420k we'll actually start making some profit.

            I guess "f-ck y'all" has its charms.
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            • #306
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              They only pay more in taxes because they have stolen all the benefits of economic expansion since 1980 while everyone else has stagnated.

              But hey, it's going to be neutral for my household and if we can get up above about $420k we'll actually start making some profit.

              I guess "f-ck y'all" has its charms.
              I know I'll never reach the promised land and will always be caught in the trap of having my fortune stolen. That's the way it's been for me the last 25 years and it's not going to change.
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              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • #307
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                I know I'll never reach the promised land and will always be caught in the trap of having my fortune stolen. That's the way it's been for me the last 25 years and it's not going to change.
                The irony of these tax changes and the other systemic changes that have been going on is as the bizarre Party Mitosis continues, splitting left and right into smart and dumb, it will also, very slowly, split them into the middle class vs the rich plus the poor. At some point will come the realization by the middle class / left / smart party that there is no longer any reason to support the poor, because they either will never vote or will vote for a Handmaid's Tale country.

                And at that moment something is going to snap, because over the last century the only thing that has kept the poor in America from descending into a Central African socio-economic status has been the good will of educated liberals. When that goes, it really will be the Hunger Games.

                My word of caution for Republicans is, when the peasants revolt, they burn down the manor house, not the ale house. Youse guys is f-cked.
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                • #308
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  The irony of these tax changes and the other systemic changes that have been going on is as the bizarre Party Mitosis continues, splitting left and right into smart and dumb, it will also, very slowly, split them into the middle class vs the rich plus the poor. At some point will come the realization by the middle class / left / smart party that there is no longer any reason to support the poor, because they either will never vote or will vote for a Handmaid's Tale country.

                  And at that moment something is going to snap, because over the last century the only thing that has kept the poor in America from descending into a Central African socio-economic status has been the good will of educated liberals. When that goes, it really will be the Hunger Games.
                  Count me among the many who has no sympathy for any of the people I'm supposed to read about.
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                  Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                  Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                  • #309
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    Count me among the many who has no sympathy for any of the people I'm supposed to read about.
                    I think we know that, Scoob.

                    Count me as still caring, but less by the year. We can only endure midterm collapses for so long before it becomes more cost effective to just form an Unreconstructed Economic Centrist Bourgeois party. Screw the tails: come into the plus or minus 1 sigma if you want to live. Screw the cities and the country: come to the suburbs. Last one in pull up the drawbridge. The humans will feast on microbrews and let the pigs, dogs, and sheep devour each other.
                    Last edited by Kepler; 07-10-2017, 01:06 PM.
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                    • #310
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      We all know they only come out when Democrats propose spending on things like the poor, health care, seniors, roads, science, climate, etc. They all exist then. In force.
                      Tax and spend = evil and communism.

                      borrow and spend = awesome and capitalism. At least that's my conclusion after reagan and all the fools that have followed in the wake of his farts.

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                      • #311
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                        Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                        Tax and spend = evil and communism.

                        borrow and spend = awesome and capitalism. At least that's my conclusion after reagan and all the fools that have followed in the wake of his farts.
                        Borrow and Spend only is awesome and capitalism if you're borrowing and spending on the RICH. Otherwise, no.
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                        • #312
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          Borrow and Spend only is awesome and capitalism if you're borrowing and spending on the RICH. Otherwise, no.
                          It's almost as if the entire system is just a self-serving oligarchy and our votes mean nothing.
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                          • #313
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            It's almost as if the entire system is just a self-serving oligarchy and our votes mean nothing.
                            Bingo.
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                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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                            • #314
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                              Bingo.
                              But we can still come back from the brink. We did it in 1932.
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                              • #315
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part V: Doctor! Doctor! Give me the news!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                But we can still come back from the brink. We did it in 1932.
                                Maybe 2032. Full 100 year cycle. Too late for me, but it might help my kids.
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