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  • #796
    Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    This list reinforces two things for me.

    1. "Greatest" lists should not include anything released in the last 20 years. Half the movies since 1997 on that list will drop off it by that rule.

    2. Some Like it Hot still fools critics on pure inter-generational momentum. It's a good comedy, sure, a perfectly cromulent comedy. But for f-ck's sake it doesn't even belong in the top 50, and I LOVE Billy Wilder.

    Annie Hall is also grossly overrated because it's a movie essentially made for film critics. It's good and my god that ending but again, not even top 50.
    I'd put City Lights ahead of The Great Dictator and close to Modern Times.

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    • #797
      Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      This list reinforces two things for me.

      1. "Greatest" lists should not include anything released in the last 20 years. Half the movies since 1997 on that list will drop off it by that rule.

      2. Some Like it Hot still fools critics on pure inter-generational momentum. It's a good comedy, sure, a perfectly cromulent comedy. But for f-ck's sake it doesn't even belong in the top 50, and I LOVE Billy Wilder.

      Annie Hall is also grossly overrated because it's a movie essentially made for film critics. It's good and my god that ending but again, not even top 50.
      Leave it to you to rip two of the greatest films ever made. They both belong on the list. Whatever list it is. And Dumb and Dumber belongs on the list so that's the major flaw.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • #798
        Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
        Leave it to you to rip two of the greatest films ever made. They both belong on the list. Whatever list it is. And Dumb and Dumber belongs on the list so that's the major flaw.
        FFS. It's not a "rip" to say a 7 is not a 10.
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        • #799
          Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          FFS. It's not a "rip" to say a 7 is not a 10.
          It is if they're both 10's.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #800
            Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            It is if they're both 10's.
            No, it's still not a rip, it's a difference of opinion.

            The Departed is a 1. That's a rip.
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            • #801
              Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

              You know just because you have an opinion and think highly of it doesnt mean you are right
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              • #802
                Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                Kep ripped off The Departed. It should be an easy 4, maybe even a 5.

                I didn't look at the list but is the most overrated film of all time (Usual Suspects) on it?

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                • #803
                  Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  I didn't look at the list but is the most overrated film of all time (Usual Suspects) on it?
                  That's an odd way of spelling "Blade Runner".

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                  • #804
                    Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                    That's an odd way of spelling "Blade Runner".
                    LOL so true. Though that isnt my most overrated film...I wont name it because every film nerd and fanboy will flame me to the point that the board will crash (and no it isnt Reservoir Dogs though that makes my Top 10 most overrated)
                    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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                    • #805
                      Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                      Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                      That's an odd way of spelling "Blade Runner".
                      Please. Blade Runner is a 9. Usual Suspects is a workaday 7. Reservoir Dogs is a 6 and the least interesting of all Q's films except the opening which is terrific.

                      All ratings are within genre (i.e., you can't judge a RomCom and a Horror by the same standards -- apples and oranges).

                      Most overrated film of all time is The Searchers. It's strictly up there as a message film. As a movie it's not in the top 100 Westerns -- probably not even in the top 250. Except, of course, the cinematography, which is amazing.

                      Another sub-5 often mistaken for a 10: the Kurosawa Seven Samurai, which is watching paint dry. The Magnifect Seven is a far, far better movie than the original. The film that does deserve the praise is Yojimbo, a genuine 10.

                      I guarantee Handy's "most overrated" film is Citizen Kane. It's exactly the sort of performative anti-elitist nonsense he's peddled elsewhere. I mean that with respect, of course.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 08-23-2017, 01:53 PM.
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                      • #806
                        Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        This list
                        1. "Greatest" lists should not include anything released in the last 20 years. Half the movies since 1997 on that list will drop off it by that rule.

                        .
                        dude. lost in translation was definitely made after 1997!!!
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                        • #807
                          Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                          nice to see borat there...... since on the unintentional comedy list, that movie is the reason any visitor to Kazakhstan who stays more than 2 nights has to register with the local police
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                          • #808
                            Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post

                            I guarantee Handy's "most overrated" film is Citizen Kane. It's exactly the sort of performative anti-elitist nonsense he's peddled elsewhere. I mean that with respect, of course.
                            Actually it is #2. While it is boring as hell and made me want to jab nails in my eyes at least I can say it was innovative and changed movie making.
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                            • #809
                              Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                              it is boring as hell
                              This says nothing about Citizen Kane and everything about you.


                              Here are my other guesses about genuinely brilliant movies that go over your head:

                              Vertigo. Too painterly for the bores.

                              Lawrence of Arabia. Too slow for the toddlers.

                              All About Eve. As I recall you don't even realize who gave the best performance in it.


                              And here are some which if you picked them you'd be right:

                              The Grapes of Wrath. Nails on a chalkboard for about 16 hours. The book is even worse.

                              The Birth of a Nation. Incredibly overrated. Boring and parody-worthy hamfisted.

                              Intolerance. I want to revise my #1 most overrated movie of all time -- this is it. Awful in every possible way.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 08-23-2017, 03:44 PM.
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                              • #810
                                Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Vertigo. Too painterly for the bores.

                                All About Eve. As I recall you don't even realize who gave the best performance in it.
                                Vertigo. Greatest film ever made. And it's replaced Citizen Kane as it should on most lists now.

                                All About Eve. No, that's not Handy. It's me. Pretty overrated film overall IMO.
                                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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