Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

[St. Clown]

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Dunkirk. It was excellent. I don't want to say too much because it just follows the real timeline of events. It's not like you're going to be surprised by anything if you know even a little about the history of the evacuation of Dunkirk during WWII, but Nolan wove in a couple plot points. Kenneth Branagh was really good as the rear admiral orchestrating the evac. His part wasn't overly indulged in terms of screen time, but he performed his roll really well.

There's also a simple device/trick that Nolan uses in the movie to help pull the audience into the events. It's almost imperceptible through most of the movie, and could border of being overused in a couple spots, but I thought it very effective and building up the earnest feeling he wanted to draw from you.

[French Rage]

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So it wasn't a turkey?

*golfclap*

[joecct]

As God is my witness, Spider Man: Homecoming was really good.

So it wasn't a turkey?

[Kepler]

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As God is my witness, Spider Man: Homecoming was really good.

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Sure there is. Kids get out of school for the summer, party. A story as old as time itself.

Doesn't make it a plot.

And that story is applicable to every generation - which is why I identify with it so strongly and it made me a bit melancholy.


Anyway...

Watched Pearl Harbor for the first time tonight. Caught it just a few minutes before the attack and don't believe I missed anything important.

Pretty incredible portrayal of the battle and aftermath.

The Doolittle raid portion wasn't necessary, but whatever.

Cheesy love triangle too.

Having HBO coz GoT is dangerous as I get sucked into movies I probably wouldn't otherwise watch.

[rufus]

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I meant there's not much of a plot line.

I'm a bit younger, but I remember the 70s quite well.

Sure there is. Kids get out of school for the summer, party. A story as old as time itself.

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Actually, it's about the 70's.

Anyone who didn't live through them, who wasn't of that age then, might ask, were the 70's really like that? As someone who was Mitch's age when this film takes place, all I can say is, absolutely. My high school years were so much like that, it's incredible. It's like Linklater went to my high school.

I meant there's not much of a plot line.

I'm a bit younger, but I remember the 70s quite well.

[rufus]

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Love Starship Troopers!


Caught the start of Dazed and Confused and got sucked in. Haven't seen it since it came out and don't remember liking it all that much.

LOVED it tonight.

And it's really about nothing.

Actually, it's about the 70's.

Anyone who didn't live through them, who wasn't of that age then, might ask, were the 70's really like that? As someone who was Mitch's age when this film takes place, all I can say is, absolutely. My high school years were so much like that, it's incredible. It's like Linklater went to my high school.

[Kepler]

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I've always felt that it breaks character at the very end - last 5-10 minutes.

When I first saw it, I assumed that they thought they were making a legit sci-fi film and then realized what they had and changed the tone of the last bit to say, "Hey, we were joking all along."


Maybe that wasn't their intention, but there is a change in mood during that last bit.

A wink, of sorts.

The only time I thought that was the "do your part" segment with the children all gleefully stamping on the bugs. They could have dimmed that down a lot.

For instance, the brilliance of noting that humans were probably the original aggressor and then simply slapping it away with a right wing "kill 'em all!!!" snarl was pitch perfect. Or the aforementioned mind meld where the brain bug is feeling not malice but fear and the crazed, bloodthirsty response, the teacher's off-handed dismissal of democracy and the location of political legitimacy in the will of the people, or the casual viciousness of the regime's penalty system. Those were perfect images of the fascist mindset. They could be from the White House or the RNC convention these days.

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An ironic masterpiece; it never breaks character once. "It's afraid!" (outburst of cheering)

I've always felt that it breaks character at the very end - last 5-10 minutes.

When I first saw it, I assumed that they thought they were making a legit sci-fi film and then realized what they had and changed the tone of the last bit to say, "Hey, we were joking all along."


Maybe that wasn't their intention, but there is a change in mood during that last bit.

A wink, of sorts.

[Kepler]

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Having said that, has anyone watched any of the sequels? I'm assuming they aren't in on the joke of the original and are your standard horrific 'b's rated straight to DVD fare.

I've never gone near them.

Supposedly a remake is also in Production Hell which is going to be the book as it was written to "restore the honor" of the original, but I don't think it's on anybody's priority list other than the type of people who backed those terrible Rand movies or those inane Left Behind movies.

We don't really need that now, though. American society has become as jaded, vicious and uncaring as Heinlein wanted.

[unofan]

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Having said that, has anyone watched any of the sequels? I've been assuming they aren't in on the joke of the original and are your standard horrific b-rated straight to DVD fare.

If they're more than that, I'm open to actually watching them.

[unofan]

Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.

As others have said, the movie satirizes the book and old war propaganda reels. On that front, it's amazing. The bad acting fits that narrative, too.

[Kepler]

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It's a full on left-wing spoof of right-wing politics with a title from a right-wing beat off material book.

That said, it's *ing hilarious. "Medic!"

It's perfect because they play it straight. Even the narrative "romance" is like some hyper-idealized Nazi fantasy crossed with an Orange County well-scrubbed teen flick.

An ironic masterpiece; it never breaks character once. "It's afraid!" (outburst of cheering)

Verhoeven must have been hilarious. Supposedly the cast objected to the naked shower scene and gave him an ultimatum that they'd only do it if he shot it naked. He wanted the scene, so he did.

I still have no idea how he snuck it past both Disney (Touchstone) and Sony (TriStar). "Would you like to know more?"

[Kepler]

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Read the book? The only thing the movie had in common with the book was the title.

I have. The book, like much of Heinlein, is fascist tripe. The only connection between the book and the movie is the latter is savagely mocking the former and the type of reader who loved it.

The Forever War is a much more intellectual parody of the same tendencies in Heinlein but it's less accessible.