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  • #271
    Originally posted by French Rage View Post
    I liked "Tomorrow Never Dies" the best, but I've learned to accept I'm the only one.
    Tomorrow Never Dies has aged well. People scoffed at the media mogul as the bad guy at the time, but in today's landscape it's less unbelievable.

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    • #272
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      I get not liking the Dalton ones -- the scripts were rubbish. I get not liking the Moore ones -- they were camp. And the Connery redux is awful. But the original Connery ones? You crazy -- that's the motherlode right there. Connery in From Russia with Love and Goldfinger IS the essence of Bond.

      Plus the most recent ones have been no great shakes. Sky Fall was infantile; Quantum of Solace was a mess that didn't work; Spectre was a mess that kinda sorta worked. The first 3/4s of Craig's Casino Royale were great but the end was ridiculous. Craig has not yet delievered a truly great Bond movie even though I'd say he is the second best Bond after Sean.
      Quantum of Solace was a Bourne movie with Bond as the lead. Casino Royale, which is a great Bond movie regardless, should've ended with Bond turning in his resignation, and the entire sequence in Venice should've been the pre-credit opening for QoS.

      Skyfall was also a good Bond movie. Spectre was meh.

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      • #273
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        Casino Royale and Skyfall are my two favorites. I loved Craig's Bond. I hope they continue this darker version of Bond with high production value and not the campy garbage they put out before.
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        • #274
          Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          Quantum of Solace was a Bourne movie with Bond as the lead. Casino Royale, which is a great Bond movie regardless, should've ended with Bond turning in his resignation, and the entire sequence in Venice should've been the pre-credit opening for QoS.
          This is exactly right. Well done.
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          • #275
            Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
            the franchise truly jumped the shark when Denise Richards played a nuclear physicist. "Christmas comes twice a year..."
            "I don't know any doctor jokes" was a very good line.

            Bond is hardly alone is giving a supermodel glasses and calling her a PhD. It's standard fare in all TV and movies put out for adolescent boys (of all ages).
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            • #276
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              I loved Octopussy. Probably my favorite non-Connery Bond film.
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              • #277
                Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I get not liking the Dalton ones -- the scripts were rubbish. I get not liking the Moore ones -- they were camp. And the Connery redux is awful. But the original Connery ones? You crazy -- that's the motherlode right there. Connery in From Russia with Love and Goldfinger IS the essence of Bond.

                Plus the most recent ones have been no great shakes. Sky Fall was infantile; Quantum of Solace was a mess that didn't work; Spectre was a mess that kinda sorta worked. The first 3/4s of Craig's Casino Royale were great but the end was ridiculous. Craig has not yet delievered a truly great Bond movie even though I'd say he is the second best Bond after Sean.
                One think I've always thought is interesting about Roger Moore is that of all the actors who played Bond, he's probably the only (at this point) for whom the role is essentially their career defining role. When you think of Roger Moore, you think of his Bond movies, even though he has a lot of other work. That's the lead in the obituary. You can't say the same about Connery or Brosnan or any of the rest (other than maybe Lazenby, who most people have never heard of). I don't know if that's because of the number of movies or what, but I could also see that potentially happening to Craig.
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                • #278
                  Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  "I don't know any doctor jokes" was a very good line.

                  Bond is hardly alone is giving a supermodel glasses and calling her a PhD. It's standard fare in all TV and movies put out for adolescent boys (of all ages).
                  No of course not...but even a blind man could tell this one was going to work.

                  Just because a trope is common doesnt mean it should be
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                  • #279
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                    When I think of Roger Moore, I think of The Saint. pretty sure I'm not the only one.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • #280
                      Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                      Originally posted by unofan View Post
                      Quantum of Solace was a Bourne movie with Bond as the lead.
                      The problem with QoS is that the villain's plan sucked so hard.

                      OK, we've got an organized and very deep international cabal. What are they planning to steal? Gold? Diamonds? No, water. OK, well, maybe water doesn't have the cachet of something more flashy but hey, you need it to live, I guess that's more of a cerebral plan. OK, so, like, with all their planning and resources, whose water are they going to steal? Europe's? USA's? China's? Man, think of the money they'll get if they hold those countries' water hostage. No, Bolivia. What the **** are they expecting to get paid in? Alpacas and pan flutes? OK, I'll be fair, stealing any country's water is a lot of work, doing it for a huge country would be all the more impossible. Gotta start small, gotta start somewhere. So they got all of the water, right? What, only 60%? All that organization and planning and killing and the end result is 60% of Bolivia's water? Great ****ing plan.

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                      • #281
                        Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                        Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                        The problem with QoS is that the villain's plan sucked so hard.

                        OK, we've got an organized and very deep international cabal. What are they planning to steal? Gold? Diamonds? No, water. OK, well, maybe water doesn't have the cachet of something more flashy but hey, you need it to live, I guess that's more of a cerebral plan. OK, so, like, with all their planning and resources, whose water are they going to steal? Europe's? USA's? China's? Man, think of the money they'll get if they hold those countries' water hostage. No, Bolivia. What the **** are they expecting to get paid in? Alpacas and pan flutes? OK, I'll be fair, stealing any country's water is a lot of work, doing it for a huge country would be all the more impossible. Gotta start small, gotta start somewhere. So they got all of the water, right? What, only 60%? All that organization and planning and killing and the end result is 60% of Bolivia's water? Great ****ing plan.
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                        • #282
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                          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          One think I've always thought is interesting about Roger Moore is that of all the actors who played Bond, he's probably the only (at this point) for whom the role is essentially their career defining role. When you think of Roger Moore, you think of his Bond movies, even though he has a lot of other work. That's the lead in the obituary. You can't say the same about Connery or Brosnan or any of the rest (other than maybe Lazenby, who most people have never heard of). I don't know if that's because of the number of movies or what, but I could also see that potentially happening to Craig.
                          Sean Connery is James Bond. Everything else he did was either ridiculous (Zardoz, Extraordinary Gentlemen) or a victory lap (Untouchables, Highlander).

                          I think of Moore as a debonair icon who took the role late as icing. A sort of: what if David Niven had played Bond straight? I was disappointed that his movies were so silly. But he was way too old for the role anyway. Like others, he's The Saint. Bond was a way to pay checks.
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                          • #283
                            Re: Movies: New Ideas Welcome II Prequel Reboot

                            Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                            The problem with QoS is that the villain's plan sucked so hard.

                            OK, we've got an organized and very deep international cabal. What are they planning to steal? Gold? Diamonds? No, water. OK, well, maybe water doesn't have the cachet of something more flashy but hey, you need it to live, I guess that's more of a cerebral plan. OK, so, like, with all their planning and resources, whose water are they going to steal? Europe's? USA's? China's? Man, think of the money they'll get if they hold those countries' water hostage. No, Bolivia. What the **** are they expecting to get paid in? Alpacas and pan flutes? OK, I'll be fair, stealing any country's water is a lot of work, doing it for a huge country would be all the more impossible. Gotta start small, gotta start somewhere. So they got all of the water, right? What, only 60%? All that organization and planning and killing and the end result is 60% of Bolivia's water? Great ****ing plan.
                            Just think of all the baths you could draw and soup you could make that has an international flare since it's Bolivian water. Just sayin'...

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                            • #284
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                              I went to the sneak preview of Wonder Woman last night...it is quite good. Scooby I predict you are going to enjoy the hell out of it
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                              • #285
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                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                I went to the sneak preview of Wonder Woman last night...it is quite good. Scooby I predict you are going to enjoy the hell out of it
                                Awesome to hear. I've been waiting a long time for this movie.
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